Talk:Incitement to ethnic or racial hatred

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This article seems biased against liberals. Citing sources would help; removing or changing certain phrases could also help. --Super Aardvark 21:18, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

It was biased, and I've taken out the POV and put some real information in there. XYaAsehShalomX 12:52, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 right of free speech 2 Why is this only about the UK ? 3 Inciting Racial Hatred In Australia 4 Freedom of speech, LOL!!! 5 Jews and Sikhs

[edit] right of free speech

Is there, in Britain, actually a right to free speech? PeteVerdon 23:37, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Dunno, I'm not Brittish.--58.104.120.128 02:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes. It's a common misconception that the UK has no legal freedom of speech, but it's actually covered by Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

OK, yes, that seems obvious now I come to think of it. On looking at that article I also see that the Convention has been around for a lot longer than I thought; I suppose the change allowing people to go to the Court directly (Protocol 11) probably brought it into greater prominence, and to someone not paying attention might well look like its creation.

Don't suppose you know anything about the situation pre-1950? PeteVerdon 22:50, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

wat bout the sikhs—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.8.175.26 (talk • contribs)

Dunno, I'm not a Sikh.--58.105.6.21 02:38, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

It may have freedom of speech in writing but I'd like to direct you to my section below, if we had freedom of speech I could say what I pleased, this is disgusting.

82.3.82.59 12:01, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is this only about the UK ?

I find it strange that this article only deals with British law. I know for sure that "incitation à la haine raciale" is illegal in France, and it would be strange if these were the only two countries to disallow it. Recently, nationalist politicians such as Jean-Marie Le Pen and Bruno Gollnisch have been condemned for that, as well as the humorist Dieudonné M'bala M'bala. I've looked for such an article in the French wiki, but there isn't one yet. I'd love to help on that topic but my knowledge in laws don't go further than that. --Rell Canis 12:10, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

It shouldn't be a law anyhow.

82.3.82.59 15:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

In order to include more countries, I propose that the article covering this in Germany - Volksverhetzung - be merged into here. - 52 Pickup ^(deal) 13:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inciting Racial Hatred In Australia

This page incorrectly cites the Racial Hatred Act 1995 as a source of law prohibiting incitement to racial hatred. There is no reference to incitement in the Act whatsoever. The Act is concerned with racial harrassment rather than incitement to racial hatred. The title of the Act is indeed a misonomer.

[edit] Freedom of speech, LOL!!!

I'm personally in awe of the fact that supposedly a civilised and western government can so plainly lie, of freedom of speech existed I wouldn't be in trouble for showing support for a legalised organisation, recognised globally as a law- abiding, Christian organisation. I support it, I won't at this stage name it but people can probably guess right, and yet I got suspended from school for merely saying, "Yes I sympathise with them".

Also I was in trouble for placing a video on youtube of performing a Sieg Heil salute, although I put at the beginning a warning that it didn't advocate violence, that people 'chose' to watch it and that I was merely showing my beliefs and not actively encouraging anyone to join me and I was still in trouble and what's worse I did it in private, at home and my school punished me, please tell me how there's some relation between freedom of speech and this law. I didn't hurt any ethnic group, I supported an organisation who had persecuted another ethnic group but wasn't myself doing it, yes. It's just disgraceful, please tell me what law I violated, because otherwise I'm getting those teachers' fired for putting a black mark on my record. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.3.82.59 (talk) 11:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

deliberately provoking hatred of a racial group, specifically made to protect Jews and Sikhs who were being targeted. distributing racist material to the public making inflammatory public speeches creating racist websites on the Internet inciting inflammatory rumours about an individual or an ethnic group, for the purpose of spreading racial discontent

Right I didn't provoke anybody else into hating Jews, if I want to hate them I can. It was public but you'd have to search hard to find it. I made no speeches, I made no rumours, so what exactly did I do that warranted a whole host of detentions and a suspension?

82.3.82.59 12:00, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm assuming you're a Nazi or BNP supporter. In which case, I think you're legally allowed to say so - you're just not allowed to promote it in any way. I think it may be something to do with school rules rather than law.

[edit] Jews and Sikhs

With regard to the line: "deliberately provoking hatred of a racial group, specifically made to protect Jews and Sikhs who were being targeted". This line is wrong. I have no idea where the writer got the idea that it was for jews and sikhs. The bill was to protect all races, pakistani, indian, afro caribbean, african, chinese, (even white) all of whom were being targeted. Maybe they got the idea from discussion of the "religious hatred bill" where it was argued that jews and sikhs had an extra protection of their religion because they are seen as both a race and a religion. But that doesn't change what this bill was about. I am removing the last part of this line. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.102.21.213 (talk) 02:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC).