Talk:In the Absence of Truth

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Article requirements:
YesY All the start class criteria
YesY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
YesY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
YesY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
YesY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
YesY Categorisation at least by artist and year
YesY A casual reader should learn something about the album. Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

In the Absence of Truth was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: August 10, 2007

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:In the absence of truth.jpg

Image:In the absence of truth.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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Resolved. Seegoon 17:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA nomination

I'm failing this album's GA nomination for the following reasons:

  • You should probably trim the professional reviews part of the album template a bit. Only fairly major publications should be included (if it doesn't have a wikilink, it probably isnt notable enough).
  • also in the album template, there should be an m-dash in between the recorded dates.
  • Live and remix albums aren't included in the chronology section of the template. Skip back to Panopticon
  • The album picture is very large for a supposed fair use image. Consider reducing the size a bit.
  • "came under fire in several areas" -- sounds too cliché
  • punctuation needs to be included inside quotations (i.e. "but one the band perfected with their 2002 album Oceanic," and...)
  • Billboard is a magazine, so it should be italicized whenever it appears in the article.
  • "Allmusic" should be "All Music Guide".
  • Mention the chart positions of the album in the "Reception" section rather than make a chart for two entries.
  • Even though they're wikilinked in the lead, you should wikilink important terms like Isis and Panopticon in the body as well.
  • Take out the "(see 2006 in music)"
  • Mention the record label in the lead.
  • Don't link to stuff like article scans in your references. It's an illegal practice for the scanner, and wikipedia shouldn't link to it. It's OK to have a reference that lacks a url.
  • More information is needed for the Q Magazine reference. At minimum, we need a title and an author. Simply taking the issue number from Metacritic isn't enough.

Now, these are rather nitpicky things, and I would just place the article on hold if those were my only concerns. However, there's one huge thing missing from the article: a recording section. The article immediately jumps into a "reception" section, but mentions nothing about the recording process for the album. Where was it recorded? For how long? Was there a lot/not much overdubbing? When was the album announced? Also, you should mention anything that the band did to promote the album, such as a promotional tour. These are major things that are critical for any encyclopedic article on an album, so I'm going to have to fail this one. Best wishes on improving the article. Teemu08 04:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

    • In response to the album cover thing, I honestly don't care, and wouldn't fail an article because of it. However, other people do care, and it would probably help your chances with a separate reviewer. Teemu08 02:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed reviews from album template

As per GA fail, I'm not going to delete these reviews per se, but they don't really have a place in the article. Sod.

  • Absolute Punk (92/100) link
  • Ground and Sky (Positive) link
  • HCS.net 5/5 stars link
  • Metal Storm 8.6/10 stars link
  • Musique Machine 3/5 stars link
  • Sea of Tranquillity 4/5 stars link
  • Scene Point Blank 8.5/10 stars link
  • Sonic Frontiers 8/10 stars link
  • Transform Online (Negative) link

Seegoon 13:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)