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After several people moved and fiddled with the title of this article, I have moved it back to its original title. There is no need for disambiguation because In Utero has no alternate meaning. As long as there is a prominent link to in utero, the article can be here. It's pointless to move an article to a disambiguated title with a non-disambigged title redirecting to it. Tuf-Kat

Regarding the quote in the article "If you are a racist, a sexist or in anyway an asshole don't buy my records and don't give me your money. Don't love me because I hate you," an anon added: "The previous quote appeared in Incesticide, not In Utero." I can't verify it; hopefully someone knows what's correct. Everyking 02:14, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The exact quote from the Incesticide liner notes:
At this point I have a request for our fans. If any of you in any way hate homosexuals, people of different color, or women, please do this one favor for us - leave us the fuck alone! Don't come to our shows and don't buy our records.
There are no quotes in In Utero besides the credits and lyrics. Jh51681 06:25, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The article says the quote was planned for In Utero but not printed. However, it looks so similar to the one from Incesticide that maybe there was just some confusion. Everyking 12:28, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] DUMB

The song Dumb was never a hit. It was never a single. There were no promos made for it, so it wasn't a radio hit, and did not recieve radio play. I think someone maybe getting confused because it was included on the Greatest Hits/Best Of. Well what a silly album that was, they didn't even use the the In utero version of All Apologies - which was a hit. They used the crap Unplugged version instead. I think Dumb was included because it was just a good sounding song. However at the time of In Utero, the song Dumb was in no way a hit or radio hit. -- 195.137.109.177

"Dumb" received substantial radio airplay in the summer of 1994 on US radio, particularly Alternative stations. You're right, it wasn't a single. But "Sappy / Verse Chorus Verse" received a substantial amount of airplay that summer as well, and it wasn't a single, either. In the 90s, US Alternative stations had a habit of playing songs that weren't released as singles.
And you don't have to take my word for it. "VCV" was #33 and "Dumb" was #41 on KROQ (Los Angeles)'s Top 106.7 of 1994. [1] KROQ was one of the most influential Alternative stations in the country, and many other stations followed their lead. Check out other 1994 lists on that page, and you'll see "Dumb" on almost all of them. -- ChrisB 17:46, 29 August 2005

[edit] reply

Its strange, in the US a song can be called a hit if it just gets played on the radio. In the UK a song won't even be played on the radio if it isn't released as a single. Maybe we should include the KROQ hits in the hit lists here. They were playing VCV in 1993!. Do you know of any other radio chart lists for radio in the US that includes Nirvana ?


[edit] Quote

"If you are a racist, a sexist or in anyway an asshole don't buy my records and don't give me your money. Don't love me because I hate you," - That was definatly for "Incesticide" it was only in the original pressing though, if you buy it now it does not contain it.

[edit] VANDALS!

Someone has completely wiped this page, I'm not sure how to change it back to the old one though.

[edit] repaired

OK I've returned it to its former glory now.

[edit] Significance

Its actually quite significant that In Utero went straight in at #1 in both the UK and US in the same week. At the time there were less then 10 artists who had ever managed to achieve that in music history ever. - To be number 1 UK & US simultaneously first week of release.

[edit] JOKERS

OK, who's the doofus who linkned the "open source" page from the word "open sores"? Admittedly VERY funny, it still doesn't belong here.

[edit] little clarification

Hey I just added a quick note, to clarify that although the album's packaging changed the name for "Rape Me" to "Waif Me" (on the Wal-Mart release), the actual audio/lyrics were identical to the regular release. Freddie deBoer 06:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Back of album

Someone post the back part of the CD is f****** awesome concept art!

[edit] Happy 13th birthday

As of today, In Utero is 13 years old. Happy birthday!

Don't forget to celebrate Nevermind's 15th birthday in 3 days, too! NIRVANA2764 21:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tracklistings

Is it really necessary to have those old tracklistings that were never used ? Its pretty irrellevant to the page and looks a complete mess.

i don't want to edit anything in case i mess it up - but i noticed that in the opening paragraph it says that 'incesticide' was an album and it wasn't really. It was like an ep or a compilation, not an album (ie studio album) and so saying its an album and commenting on its 'mild success' is misleading.

I agree with you, so I took the part about Incesticide in the intro out. --Surachit 03:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, this is correct, I edited to list it as "third and final studio album" as the removal of 'Incesticide' means only Bleach, Nevermind and In Utero were Studio Albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.227.146 (talk) 00:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] contraversy

could someone add a citation for Wal-Mart and K-Mart not carrying the album? preferably not an internet source. I'm asking because I am doing a speech on censorship sometime in March, and this is a perfect example. I can only use up to two internet sources, so can it be a magazine or newspaper source? 72.11.37.92 02:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] KURT COBAIN ON BASS

Did kurt really play bass on the ALbum. If so could you tell us what songs he played on.

I agree. It is most unlikely Cobain played bass guitar on the album, I have never heard of any sources that he did, apart from that one "allmusic" article. It's more likely that Novoselic played bass on it. I think allmusic got it wrong. Flag of the United Kingdom Speedboy Salesman 13:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Despite the fact that Allmusic takes the credits for the album directly from the credits in the album's liner notes? Krist definitely played a majority of the bass guitar present on the album, and Kurt probably just filled in. I'm sure Kurt never played anything near a full song, just snippets here and there to fill in. But if AllMusic is wrong here, then so is the booklet for the actual In Utero CD. --Brandt Luke Zorn 18:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
The booklet lists Cobain solely as "guitar, vocals". Unless there's some other source confirming it, AllMusic is is simply wrong. (I'll point out that none of the other reliable sources - eg. LiveNirvana - mention anything about Cobain playing bass on the record.) -- ChrisB 20:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. That's odd, Allmusic usually gets this kind of thing right. Oh well, whatever, nevermind. --Brandt Luke Zorn 23:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of the Miscellanea section

Revision as of 22:39, 6 June 2007 by Brandt Luke Zorn removed the entire Miscellanea section. In particular the notes regarding the influences from King Crimson are now gone. Why? When removing an entire section some explanations should be given. Can you please provide details and rationale behind the edit? Thanks. Ettorepasquini 17:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

It was unsourced and essentially a trivia section, something we try to avoid. CloudNine 17:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Wha CloudNine said is basically correct; I looked but couldn't find a reliable source that said that In Utero was influenced by King Crimson (the only one I found was from the King Crimson wiki, but as a rule of thumb Wikipedia doesn't site itself or other wikis). However, if you have or can find a reliable source for this info, feel free to use it in the article, just put it in a relevant section like the "Music" section. --Brandt Luke Zorn 23:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kurt's Drug Use

There's a pretty hefty section in the "Background" section that details Kurt, Courtney, Frances Bean, and Kurt's drug use. Is this section vital to the album listing? If not, I suggest that it be moved to the Nirvana page, or made part of the Kurt Cobain page. BFeen (talk) 23:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

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— Save_Us † 08:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Who repeated a paragraph?

I had to erase a paragraph because somebody copied it. Please, stop vandalizing.Carmaster 00:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to the song articles?

I'm just wondering wha ton earth happened to the articles about all the "lesser known" songs off In Utero. Songs like Very Ape and tourette's all had their own article but they don't anymore. Is there a way of bringing the pages back, as i think the songs deserve their own articles, considering lots of obscure, unreleased demo's by Nirvana that appeared on With The Lights Out have their own articles (e.g. Vendetagainst, Beans etc.). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omarraii (talk • contribs) 12:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I Hate Myself And Want To Die?

"The tentative album title would be changed after Novoselic convinced Cobain that I Hate Myself And Want to Die could potentially result in a lawsuit"

How could that result in a lawsuit? Just curious.Mr bouregaurd (talk) 15:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)