Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2008 May 11

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The result of the debate was Keep Logo of a soccer club for the soccer club falls within usual "identification criterion" of NFCC - beyond this, concensus also exists here that the politicing surrounding this particular logo is especially critical to understanding the team's history. WilyD 13:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:SG Volkspolizei Dresden.png

Image:SG Volkspolizei Dresden.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wiggy! (notify | contribs).

• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy keep. We have explicit policy on logos set out at WP:NFC#Images, that the fact that the logo is or was used for identification of the subject of the article makes it acceptable use. This reflects the fact that (i) there isn't a cat's chance in hell that a U.S. court would rule this as anything other than legitimate fair use, on the four factors; and (ii) that by their very nature, such logos are not replaceable by user-generated content. This is a vexatious nomination, and appears also to be forum-shifting, since things aren't going the nominator's way at WP:FUR#These Logos. If the nominator doesn't like the policy, he should go to WT:NFC and try to change it. Please also apply this comment to all the following similar nominations below. Jheald (talk) 20:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment the explicit policy is that non free images are not used unless "...its omission would be detrimental to that understanding" (WP:NFC#8), to include every minor variation of a club logo is un-nessicary. A US court is not the issue, the issue is the goal of the wikimedia foundation. These logos have nothing to do with the WP:FUR, the FU review is not discussing histoical logos, if you want to start a new thread there, by all means do, but I cant see it being accepted, there is no prescident for using every historical logo to identify any organisation on wikipedia article. These set of articles are anomolies. Fasach Nua (talk) 14:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

• Strong keep I think the use of logos up for AfD here clearly satisfy the non-free content criteria #8 (significance) in their use in articles about sports clubs because they are being used in these articles for identification. One example of useful identification is to distinguish among sports clubs with similar names, and the logos certainly help in identifying the club (take the mulitple "Ahli" football clubs). Additionally, a particular city or region may have multiple sports clubs, and the use of logos helps with identifying the various clubs. Jogurney (talk) 13:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

comment I think the current logo is more than sufficient, for this purpose, to include every historic logo is excessive, and their omission would not be detrimental to that understanding (wp:nfc#8). If they are so important for identification why not put a dozen of them in the info box? Fasach Nua (talk) 14:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

• Strong keep Especially considering the history of East German teams, the logo changes are interesting in order to understand the degree of flux relocation/renaming of clubs led to. Similar reasoning applies to other historical club logos, as mostly the reason to come up with a new logo was not just because the old had become unfashionable. Madcynic (talk) 15:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as with other soccer logos, a consensus exists here that this is a reasonable instance of fair use, and it is consistant with NFCC, WilyD 14:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Berliner AK 07 old.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Clearly illustrates the transition of the club from a traditional althletics club to an ethnic side. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy keep, per my comment to the previous nomination. Jheald (talk) 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep Sports team logo for team is a usual instance, consistant with NFCC and consensus here. WilyD 14:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Turkiyemspor Berlin h.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is original club logo and has since evolved to include references to city of Berlin. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
• Sppedy keep - Per my comment to the previous nomination. Jheald (talk) 20:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, sports team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Elberfeld historical.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy keep, etc; and for all the similar nominations below. Jheald (talk) 20:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, sports team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:BSG Motor Babelsberg.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Logos imposed by East German sports authorities were typically radically different from a club's historical logo reflecting socialist values rather than tradition. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, sports team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:VfB Stuttgart historical.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:VfB Stuttgart 1912.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. It has since evolved significantly. Logos imposed by East German sports authorities were typically radically different from a club's historical logo reflecting socialist values rather than tradition. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:3 Wuppertal.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dynamo 3.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Logos imposed by East German sports authorities were typically radically different from a club's historical logo reflecting socialist values rather than tradition. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Berliner FC Dynamo 3.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is specifically discussed in context of article. Its deletion is inappropriate and serves as an example of thoughtless and unnecessarily aggressive POV editing. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:BFC alternate.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is specifically discussed in context of article. Its deletion is inappropriate and serves as an example of thoughtless and unnecessarily aggressive POV editing. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dynamo Dresden historical.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Historical logo of club. Controversial variant displaying championship stars. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Ahlen.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
  • Strong keep - Logo of historical predecessor identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:SC Borussia Rheine.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo of historical predecessor side identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:SV Teutonia Lippstadt.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo of historical predecessor side identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:FC Bayer Uerdingen old.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Berlin Ankaraspor1.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Original club logo, clearly illustrates the transition of the club from a traditional althletics club to an ethnic side. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:ASV Bergedorf.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:SV Erkenschwick H.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:VfR Luebeck.png

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• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:MSV Duisburg historical.png

Image:MSV Duisburg historical.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wiggy! (notify | contribs).

• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Hannoverscher FC 1896.png

Image:Hannoverscher FC 1896.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wiggy! (notify | contribs).

• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:3 Bayer Leverkusen.png

Image:3 Bayer Leverkusen.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wiggy! (notify | contribs).

• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Wismut Aue.png

Image:Wismut Aue.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wiggy! (notify | contribs).

• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Sports authorities in East Germany typically imposed the use of logos that were radically different from a club's historical logo that reflected socialist political values rather than tradition. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion. Wiggy! (talk) 14:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:VfB Karlsruhe.png

Image:VfB Karlsruhe.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wiggy! (notify | contribs).

• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep as above, soccer team logo used in article on team, consensus here and consistant with NFCC. WilyD 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Phoenix Karlsruhe.png

Image:Phoenix Karlsruhe.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wiggy! (notify | contribs).

• Image used for decorative value only, failing wp:nfc#8
• Strong keep - Logo is of historical predecessor club identified in context of article. Use of logos is permitted by policy, guideline, and broad concensus. Posted here by policy warrior zealously opposed to non-free content in midst of ongoing discussion.

comment Note that considerable discussion related to this and other football logos has taken place on other pages. That material can be accessed through wikilinks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Logo_use_in_football_articles. Wiggy! (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Delete - apparent hoax image, source information is bogus. WilyD 14:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:TheGeneralCover.jpg

Image:Image:TheGeneralCover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by [[User talk:user:Josh04#Image:Image:TheGeneralCoer.jpg listed for deletion|user:Josh04]] ([{{fullurl:User_talk:user:Josh04|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro&section=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | [[Special:Contributions/user:Josh04|contribs]]).

• This is a fan's version of a book cover which is used to repeatedly put incorrect information on CHERUB: The General

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