Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2007 September 11
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[edit] September 11
[edit] Image:Coles0807.jpg
- Delete - OR, UE - Don't even know what it's meant to be for. Plus the people have obviously had their faces altered. Spawn Man 04:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Melbourne-exhibition-and-convention-centre-brand.svg
- Something went wrong somewhere; uploaded a .png version instead SEO75 [talk] 07:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Madonna blond ambition tour.jpg
- Claimed as fair use screenshot, being used in singer's infobox to identify Madonna, replaceable with free use image. Ejfetters 10:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Image:Madonna blond ambition tour.jpg is free as stated in its rational for fair use. It is a screenshot of Madonna taken by myself Brandon T 3:18, 11 September 2007
- If this is a screenshot from a television show it is not free as in freedom, which is what matters here. Wikipedia policy is that only free content images can be used to show what living people look like. Delete. —Angr 21:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Michael Jackson Mugshot Post.PNG
- Claimed as fair use, but insufficient fair-use rational given for the pages in question. Portions of the fair use rational is conflicting with the fact that it is directly sourced. Sigma 7 11:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
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- What is insufficient concretely?
- Delete, we already have the mugshot at commons:Image:Michael-jackson-mugshot.jpg. —Angr 21:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Michael Jackson's a dude!??! ;) Spawn Man 04:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - Redundant as we already have a mugshot pic... Although I really wish we didn't... ;) Spawn Man 04:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Huh? Spawn Man 06:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Poor of thinking power--Nakazima 06:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Huh!??? Spawn Man 07:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Poor of thinking power--Nakazima 06:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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- There is already an image of this listed at commons is what is being said, the link is above here, the first comment - by Angr Ejfetters 07:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:UgHSTOPLOCK.svg
- Bob1960evens (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Replaced by BSicon_ugHSTOPLOCK.svg - I got the name wrong Bob1960evens 13:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:UgSTOPLOCK.svg
- Bob1960evens (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Replaced by BSicon_ugSTOPLOCK.svg - I got the name wrong Bob1960evens 13:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:RyoNishikido.jpg
- Subject is still alive, so a free image could still be made or found. Pekaje 14:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:BSicon_ugLOCKSg.svg
- Replaced by BSicon_ugLOCKSd.svg, as canal icons use standard final letters to indicate direction Bob1960evens 14:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Lebanese_special_forces_in_naher_bared.jpg
- Reuters image, violation of WP:NFCC#2 Videmus Omnia Talk 16:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Spaceflight images by Acom
- Unencyclopedic, poor quality, orphan, possibly copyright violations. A series of images uploaded by Acom to illustrate various space missions. The images appear to be digital composites of a drawing of a spacecraft and either a telescopic image or an artist's rendition of a space body, such as an asteroid or the planet pluto. The images are low quality often with obvious pixelation artifacts. The images are unencyclopedic because they represent an impossible viewpoint; if these were official NASA images released to illustrate the mission, they might have merit, but as is, they are at best highly speculative original research. The images are possible copyright violations because no sources are provided for the original images used to make the composite. They might be PD-NASA, they might not be. All are orphans.
- OOPs, forgot to sign. Also note that this uploader has uploaded many other space images that he labeled "PD-NASA" but that were really from JPL or other institutions. Dread Pirate Westley•Aargh 19:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete as possible copyvios. 132.205.44.5 01:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Copyright violation, especially on the photos. Also because of the rubbish quality and dumb wordart on some of them... I've been trying to get rid of these images for a while now... Acom hasn't been in contact with anyone... I think it's fair that unless he doesn't respond the images should go. Smiley200 18:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Lebsfnb.jpg
- Reuters image, violation of WP:NFCC#2. Videmus Omnia Talk 16:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Uh1hbomb.jpg
- Poor source (base URL, can't find the image itself) but the URL is apparently to a newspaper, which leads me to believe this is a WP:NFCC#2 violation. Videmus Omnia Talk 16:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Ifeveryonedidlogo.jpg
- David Alexander Littlefair (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned. Oli Filth 17:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Binnenplaats_boerderij_Schipborg.JPG
- owner of the building threatened me Erik-Jan Vens 17:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:UKclearway.jpg
- Orphaned, too low-quality to be usable for encyclopedic purposes. —Angr 20:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:IPA-voiceless postalveolar affricate.png
- Orphaned; redundant to commons:Image:IPA voiceless postalveolar affricate.png. —Angr 20:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Th 2333.jpg
- Delete - As per nom. Also looks as though its been lifted from the web due to the border on the outside. Spawn Man 04:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:7001630.jpg
- Subject is still alive, so a free image can reasonably be obtained. Pekaje 21:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Kkksalmon.jpg
- Image used for vandalism, no encyclopedic value. east.718 21:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Indef blocked user, only used for vandalism. --Chuck Sirloin 13:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Rashi.jpg
- Image was first deleted on here as having no source. Later it was also deleted on Commons for the same reason. See this discussion. The image has been re uploaded here as non-free per the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. Because recently a public domain image Image:Rashi woodcut.jpg of Rashi has been upload the non-free image should be deleted. Note, this image might be in the public domain, however no one seems to able to find proof of that. Garion96 (talk) 22:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep: This image is quite likely to be pre-1923. However, even if it isn't yet in the public domain de jure, it is de facto. It's been used ubiquitously for at least the past several decades, and nobody's ever challenged its use let alone sued for it. Let's not forget the reason why we need to verify PD; it's so that WP doesn't get sued, and so that people feel free to copy from WP without fear of being sued. In this case, the chance of a long-lost heir of the original artist ever emerging to sue anyone for using this picture is negligible. Nobody else in the world seems bothered by this question so why should we be? Let's not be bureaucrats, obeying a rule just for its own sake; let's use some common sense, which will show us immediately that this is a case where the reason for the rule doesn't apply, and leave the image up. -- Zsero 22:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Be careful of bending the rules just because "it's ok this once". It sets a precedent that too often gets used as leverage in less worth cases. --Firien need help? 10:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- On the contrary, the attempt to delete the image comes from people setting a precedent that treats the need for documenting PD status as if it existed for its own sake, instead of for a reason. Once again, let's not be bureaucrats. -- Zsero 03:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Be careful of bending the rules just because "it's ok this once". It sets a precedent that too often gets used as leverage in less worth cases. --Firien need help? 10:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep image This image is still significant because it is the only image of Rashi that is widely used and inclusion of it in the article means that people will be able to identify with it. It also has very low resolution and has been published outside Wikipedia. It is also claimed by a couple of editors to be PD, (“I have seen same image on a French dictionary dating of 1923” and “I saw it in a PD book once”) but they cannot at present find the source. In this instance of doubt, I think there is no harm in keeping it. Chesdovi 11:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, it doesn't have an adequate source. Sorry, but that's a non-negotiable requirement for us to use material (unless it can be shown to be out of copyright). – Quadell (talk) (random) 01:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- You keep saying that, but you don't address why it's so non-negotiable. This seems like instruction creep. WP is not a bureaucracy, and rules exist for a reason. When the reason for a rule is patently inapplicable, so is the rule. -- Zsero 03:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is the Wikimedia licensing resolution on the use of non-free content. It states "This policy may not be circumvented, eroded, or ignored on local Wikimedia projects." This resolution requires that we only use non-free material under our Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP), which is here and (as we all know) requires an explicit source. – Quadell (talk) (random) 03:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- The EDP only applies to non-free content. So does the WMF resolution. This content is free, at least de facto. There is zero chance of anyone being sued for using it, no matter what its technical legal status may turn out to be. -- Zsero 01:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is the Wikimedia licensing resolution on the use of non-free content. It states "This policy may not be circumvented, eroded, or ignored on local Wikimedia projects." This resolution requires that we only use non-free material under our Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP), which is here and (as we all know) requires an explicit source. – Quadell (talk) (random) 03:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- You keep saying that, but you don't address why it's so non-negotiable. This seems like instruction creep. WP is not a bureaucracy, and rules exist for a reason. When the reason for a rule is patently inapplicable, so is the rule. -- Zsero 03:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)