Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 October 1

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October 1

• Image:Exoristoi.jpg The image is taken from National Geographic and the page claims fair use without explanation, which I believe is inapplicable. The image is used in a similar context as in National Geopgraphic, i.e., it is a direct competition. It other words, it is not used to illustrate "National Geographic" or the authour of the article or the photographr; it is a copy of its content with the purpose to reproduce the content. In a similar way one may claim "fair use" of everything published in newspaper, which is clearly wrong. In addition this image is in violation of item 8 of policy Wikipedia:Fair use criteria: material must contribute significantly to the article and not serve purely decorative purpose. The picture adds nothing informative new to the text of the article. Mukadderat 15:57, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment/Question I strongly suspect there is quite a few images in wikipedia with the same type of false "fair use" as in my nomination above. I think the issue must be clarified in a detailed discussion. Where it can be done? Mukadderat 16:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• I would oppose deletion of the image until someone who is experienced in wiki-image-copyright issues takes a look at this; after all, it is claimed as fair use. Is the Wikipedia:Help desk the correct place to ask? I've added a rationale for now. Also, most images at Holocaust are claimed as "fair use", so it seems that it is possible to use a picture this way.--Tekleni 17:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
  • This is exactly my point: many images seem to frivolously claim "fair use" in wikipedia. The fact that it is "claimed" does not mean the claim is valid. In this particular case I explained why: it directly violates the policy in two points. Mukadderat 18:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
    • I disagree. When you're depicting what the article is about, then it can be fair use.--Tekleni 20:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. There's no proof that this actually comes from National Geographic, which is a shame, because given that the photo was probably taken before 1923, if it had been published before 1923 then it would be in the public domain, since National Geographic is based in the U.S. But without verifiable source information, we can't know for sure. howcheng {chat} 21:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Wolfram Studios Forums1151388349250.png Uploaded for use in an article about a nn forum that has now been deleted. Mgiganteus1 02:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Added speedy deletion template. YellowDot 13:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Mod1.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Xharock (notify | contribs). Copyright Violation, orphaned image

• Image:P-Mod_awards.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Xharock (notify | contribs). Copyright Violation, orphaned image

• Image:P-Mod_can_recuit.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Xharock (notify | contribs). Copyright Violation, orphaned image

• Image:P-Mod_Centre.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Xharock (notify | contribs). Copyright Violation, orphaned image

• Image:P-Mod_forums.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Xharock (notify | contribs). Copyright Violation, orphaned image Agentscott00^{(talk contribs)} 02:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:TTB.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Thoth92 (notify | contribs). OR, AB, incorporates copyrighted promotional images. Fritz S. (Talk) 08:23, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Dharwad.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Vinayfp (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 08:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:FirmaFanlord.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Empardopo (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 08:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:FirmaMarcianitoslogo.gif (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Empardopo (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 08:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Expanding IT Business.pdf (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Sanjay Sharma (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 08:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Jim Giles.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Mikehopkin (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 08:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Denenchofu entrance.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Shogo8472 (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 08:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Uspace.png (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Rtw (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 11:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:NYD 030.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Eye2eyespy (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 11:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:SVGTest.svg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Jjbeard (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE test image. Fritz S. (Talk) 11:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Washingtonbeach.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Wabeachcouncil (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 11:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:April28 2.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Thestrangemusic (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 11:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:MichaelMullen.gif (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Jigen III (notify | contribs). OR, OB by Image:Admiral Michael Mullen, official Navy photograph.jpg on Commons. Fritz S. (Talk) 11:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:F0476f88.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Roomates2 (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Beardyman.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Taylorchr (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Sexy pouty look.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Howieman (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Obey good.JPG (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Thankstowelie (notify | contribs). OR, AB, totally UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Bodge layin on lucy.JPG (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Tomcat6 (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Robodorman.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by TheReconHunter (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Dtext8.svg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Subhash15 (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Quaver.gif (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by John kirk (notify | contribs). OR, AB. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:All Underlined2.JPG (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Shultz IV (notify | contribs). OR, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Gemma and me.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Sqimbaby (notify | contribs). Or, AB, UE. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:29, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Myskina.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Attilios (notify | contribs). OR, just because source does not list copyright holder doesn't mean it's public domain. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Spoons(c)FreeFoto.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Fishal (notify | contribs). Messy copyrights when free alternative should be really to come up with- YellowDot 13:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Tken shamrock 3 001.JPG (talk | delete)
  :Uploaded by Squall995uk2002 (notify | contribs).Copyright holder is not the owner of the website given, but the creator of the photos (who that website has listed). It is doubtful there has been any such release and no evidence is provided that there was. Peyna 13:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Aguinaldo Sig.png (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by SunKing (notify | contribs). Image that has to be used under fair use provision, but does not meet fair use requirements: no source, used for illustration purposes in infobox, no fair use rationale.- YellowDot 13:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Toast graf.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Korp7 (notify | contribs). Orphanded and unensyclopedic- Sherool (talk) 13:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Men.PNG UE 86.134.112.20 15:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
• Image:Averagepenis.jpg UE, due to poor quality of image 86.134.112.20 15:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
• Image:Balkankingdoms.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Macedonia (notify | contribs). CV. Does not comply with the 1st use criterion and the map counterexample. A free map can be derived from the map images-templates. Also it is not used to illustrate the direct-related subject, which is this map itself. --Dead3y3 ^{Talk page} 16:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. With the age of that map (it says 1912 on it), it will likely be in the public domain anyway. --Tzekai 16:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I too disagree on the CV vio issue. Please explain/rephrase the second objection. •NikoSilver• 17:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

We're not the only people to think so (diff). --Tzekai 17:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The age of the map doesn't play an important role for public domain images as the year that the author died. During my research for the status of the image (Macedonia not only didn't say anything about fair use, but uploaded the image as his own work (!?)), I wasn't able to find this date of death. For that reason the public domain status isn't proven.

To clarify the second objection. There are, if I am right, images of grey colour generic maps here on Wikipedia, created by users and free-licensed. From them, the Balkan region map can be used to produce a free political map showing the states of the Balkan League, thus replacing this document by means of providing the exact information. Also by "counterexample", I mean the section Wikipedia:Fair use#Counterexamples (No. 3). It is also well known that maps aren't considered "fair use" under Wikipedia's policy.

Yes, also Andrew Levine disagreed. I notified him and explained my thoughts to him at his user page. --Dead3y3 ^{Talk page} 20:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Still though, I think it's unnecessary to delete the image. If you can make a replacement image, hen why don't you do that first, before deleting the image (although I fail to see how this is relevant to the deletion policy). --Tzekai 21:14, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Because making a replacement image it's not a prequisite for a deletion. I simply noticed this image. In simple words about the relevance to the deletion policy: a fair use image which can be replaced by a free version (non-compliance with the 1st fair use criterion). This is normally a reason for speedy deletion, but since there where objections twice, I decided to bring the matter here. --Dead3y3 ^{Talk page} 22:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Was that image published in the United States prior to 1923? If so, it is in the public domain regardless of the author's death. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 00:27, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

No such evidence exists. In fact, the only words appearing on the map are written in Russian and French, so it is unlikely that this map was published in the USA. I agree to keep it if it is the case; but it must be proven. --Dead3y3 ^{Talk page} 00:45, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Given that the exact source is unknown, it can't be kept. There's no indication that the "1912" refers to the date of the map's publication; it could have been made later, but without the source information, we have no way of knowing. howcheng {chat} 22:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Stuyotland.GIF OR Mr WR 18:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
• Image:Coat-of-arms-b.GIF OR Mr WR 18:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
• Image:Stuyoscoats.jpg OR Mr WR 18:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
• Image:Cg-lgflag.gif OR Mr WR 18:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:URs.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Grim reaper007 (notify | contribs). OR, UE- YellowDot 18:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Certain Elephant.png (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Rcq (notify | contribs). OR, OB by Image:Certain Elephant.gif. — Wwagner 19:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Not deleted. Per WP:IUP, PNGs are preferred to GIFs. howcheng {chat} 23:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:GeorgeWithGuitar.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by MrGater (notify | contribs). Source info is too uncertain. It says "The image was taken by Paul Laurent , and after i've written an email to him , he's agreed to authorise its use under the 2.5 whatever it's called license." (emphasis mine). The (purported) copyright holder doesn't see very aware what it means to release an image under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license. Also, I'm almost sure this is a re-upload of previously delete image Image:GeorgeGuitar.jpg - Abu Badali 22:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:GeorgeWithGuitar righthanded.jpg (talk | delete) - This is a derivative of the above mentioned image, made in good faith as the image as tagged as {{cc-by-2.5}}.
• Other images from the same uploader, purportedly from the the same photographer, and tagged as {{cc-by-2.5}} include:
  • Image:George Harrisson.jpg (talk | delete)
  • Image:RingoStarrand Drums.jpg (talk | delete)
  • Image:Paul and Linda.jpg (talk | delete) (this one says "Paul Laurent, has authorised its use on Wikipedia." so, should be tagged with {{permission}}) --Abu Badali 22:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Delete all the above. There is no verifiable correspondence fom Mr. Laurent to support the tagging -Nv8200p talk 15:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Sheffieldairport.jpg (talk | delete)
  

Uploaded by Lewisskinner (notify | contribs). This is a photoshopped image of the real logo, which can be found at [1] and is thus nonsense, and UE. It should be removed accordingly M0RHI | Talk to me 22:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)