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Contents 1 Adjustment to claim of first titles to hit the shelves 2 Image characters are rip off of Marvel characters 3 "Cotton" quote 4 Age of Bronze 5 Cleanup wrong/bad links 6 Better-Known Series 7 Problems with the presumption that Image is seperate from Marvel... 8 Shattered Image ? 9 All tease, no please 10 How many studios remains 11 Fair use rationale for Image:Obergeist.JPG 12 Fair use rationale for Image:Wb80cover.jpg 13 citation v. external link for TCJ article

[edit] Adjustment to claim of first titles to hit the shelves

Edited the section that mentions the first titles to hit the shelves to include Larsen's Savage Dragon. This title was shipped the same week as Spawn's first issue, and both were three weeks before Lee's WildCATs title. -sapbuckets

[edit] Image characters are rip off of Marvel characters

ShadowHawk is Wolverine and Darkhawk Spawn is Spiderman and Venom WildCats/Cyberforce/Youngblood is a rip off of X-force

I think the only thing original image produced was the Maxx and Wetworks.

The "history" section especially is full of pro-Image/anti-Marvel rhetoric. I will work on this when I get some time. -leigh (φθόγγος) 02:42, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

It's basically just a summary of the last external link. The first paragraph might not be too friendly towards Marvel, but the rest of the section isn't exactly friendly towards Image. - Lifefeed 17:00, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] "Cotton" quote

RE: "Supposedly, the meeting became intense and, when the artists threatened to leave Marvel, Stewart said the company could "always find someone else to pick the cotton," an analogy that compared the artists to slaves."

This is a highly incendiary quotation, and possibly libelous. What is the citation for this, and is it proper to quote someone without citation? As a journalist, I know the word "supposedly" is not considered a defense against libel.

It appears to be true, though. The Image Comics Tenth Anniversary hardcover contains a timeline of Image Comics events, and the above incident is included. The direct quote is this: "Liefeld, McFarlane and Lee meet with Marvel CEO, Terry Stewart, who offers them the Epic imprint. McFarlane rejects offer...colorfully (tells Stewart where to shove his offer). Liefeld leaves the meeting early. Stewart tells them he will not '...kiss (their) asses. You boys don't get that anyone can pick the cotton.' (McFarlane will, hereafter, refer to Marvel as 'The Plantation.' )" --Michael24 01:50, 19 January 2006

[edit] Age of Bronze

Not all of Image's titles involve poorly-rendered numbskulls in spandex walloping each other with power blasts. For years, Eric Shanower's "Age of Bronze" series has painstakingly chronicled the historical Trojan War...which is, of course, the original tale of numbskulls walloping each other. But it is quite well-rendered.

[edit] Cleanup wrong/bad links

The "Notable series published" section has a lot of misdirected links. In some cases, ambiguous title names are pointing to the wrong article, so I'm either pointing it to its comic-related article, or if there currently is no such article, I'm de-linking it. I've finished the first column, will work on correcting the rest a bit later. ---Jackel 00:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. --Chris Griswold 06:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better-Known Series

Hi there, I just wanted to mention that I added ShadowHawk to that list. That series is sometimes described as one of Image's "flagship" series on the Image Comics website. Plus it is still around and selling relatively well compared to other Image Comics series. Feel free to accept this revision or not. Thanks. --ShadowAvatar 18:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with the presumption that Image is seperate from Marvel...

Check any Image comic, the last time I did was Spawn #18. Image is a subsidiary of Malibu comics, which is a subsidiary of Marvel Comics. The whole thing was a publicity stunt to give popular artists a chance to make even more money for Marvel. Maize5 01:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Brett Harris/Maize5

No, It was not. Malibu DID have an association with Image at the begining, but only as "official keeper of records". And in any case, Malibu wasn't bought by Marvel until years AFTER Image became it's own company.

[edit] Shattered Image ?

What was "Shattered Image" minisers--Brown Shoes22 01:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] All tease, no please

"Image's success has significantly changed the position of creators in the comic book industry,"

Shouldn't that be expanded upon and supported, or removed?

[edit] How many studios remains

Which studios remains at Image today? Is it correct that these are Todd McFarlane Productions, Desperado Publishing, 12 Gauge Productions, Beckett Comics and Top Cow Productions? If so, this should clearly be mentioned. 193.217.192.160 13:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Obergeist.JPG

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BetacommandBot 20:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Wb80cover.jpg

Image:Wb80cover.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] citation v. external link for TCJ article

The Comics Journal article, "The Image Story," which is already listed in the external links, corroborates the "two provisions" in the Founding section, currently marked as needing a citation. (It also corroborates the previously discussed "cotton" quote, BTW.) If it is added as a reference, is it redundant to leave it in the external links? --Sloop Jon (talk) 01:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Should be fine - unless those parts are the be-all and end-all of the article. ntnon (talk) 03:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)