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[edit] DISCOGRAPHY ANYONE?
Discographic info would help this article tremendously. Also info on his various record deals.
It is not Montreaux Jazz festival, but Montreal Jazz festival
His name is not Izear Luster Turner, but is in fact Ike Wister Turner, as mentioned in his autobiography.
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- I know where that comes from: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ike+Turner If you are right, it is wrong there too and should be changed. -andy 84.149.92.185 (talk) 06:46, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] EX-Wives
Ike had married on numerous occasions. Does anyone have any information on this?
User:Dinobrya
I have removed the request for citations that he abused Tina Turner. Were admissions in the autobiographies of both parties, plus a major Hollywood film, not 'citation' enough? Smurfmeister (talk) 10:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia writing standards?
"with nothing more than thirty-six cents and a gas-station credit card. "
This strikes me as being a little dramatic for an encyclopedia. More details of this event are on the Tina Turner page 87.192.210.49 21:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)Waltzer
"...was recorded at, " - awkwardly incorrect prepositional structure. The word 'at' is not needed.
"...from Anna Mae Bullock to Tina Turner - naming her after Sheena," - needs clarification for what amounts to an obscure American television program (Sheena, Queen of the Jungle).
"...he was awarded with an "Heroes Award" - Awkward, and incorrectly names the award - better to say, "...he was given a "Hero Award" "
This article would benefit from further editing.
[edit] This article needs to reference its source material
Editors, please read WP:V and WP:CITE. It's very important to note where you got your material for you article. Thanks! Mattisse(talk) 22:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hmmm, "Smack Tina Up"?
From the article (discography):
- 1971: "Smack Tina Up" (R&B #9, US #69)
Nothing on Google, except Wikipedia and another site copying WP content, so I suspect this is vandalism. The discography really needs reliable sources. Richard W.M. Jones 20:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Myth: Abuse is caused by drug use
I removed the following: most of which was brought on by drugs
Below are citations where it has been established that drugs and alcohol do not cause abuse. Rather abusers use it as an excuse for losing control when abusers do not actually "lose control". Their violence is targeted and is often done in private indicating their awareness of what they're doing is wrong. It is also said mental illness does not cause abuse.
Bancroft, Lundy (2003). Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men. ISBN 0425191656.
Cunradi, C. B., Caetano, R., Clark, C. L., Schafer, J. (1999). Alcohol-related problems and intimate partner violence among White, Black, & Hispanic couples in the U. S. Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research, 23, 1492-1501.
Fals-Stewart, William. (2002). The occurrence of partner physical aggression on days of alcohol consumption: A longitudinal diary study. Unpublished manuscript. Research Institute on Addictions, University at Buffalo, Buffalo, NY.
Flanzer, J. P. (1993). Alcohol and other drugs are key causal agents of violence (pp. 171-181). In R. J. Gelles & D. R. Loseke (Eds.), Current controversies on family violence. Sage: Newbury Park, CA.
Kantor, G. K. & Straus, M. A. (1987). The drunken bum theory of wife beating. Social Problems, 34, #3, 213-230.
Leonard, K. E. & Quigley, B. M. (1999). Drinking and marital aggression in newlyweds: An event based analysis of drinking and the occurrence of husband marital aggression. Journal of Studies on Alcohol, 60, 537-545.
O’Leary, K. D. (1993). Through a psychological lens: Personality traits, personality disorders, and levels of violence (pp 7-29). In R. J. Gelles & D. K. Loseke (Eds.), Current controversies on family violence. Newbury Park, CA: Sage.
Pan, H. S., Neidig, P. H., & O’Leary, K.D. (1994). Predicting mild and severe husband to wife physical aggression. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62, 975-981.
Schumacher, J. A., & O’Leary, K. D. (2002). Alcohol Use and Intimate Partner Violence: A Linear Association or a Threshold Effect? Unpublished manuscript. Research Institute on Addictions, University at Buffalo, Buffalo, NY.
Adria.richards 03:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Sing it, sister! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 (talk) 22:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Birth name
Re the confusion over his middle name being Luster or Wister, surely this must relate to a misinterpretation at some point over handwriting, as written down it would have been very easy to confuse the two alternatives. Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Use of Turner surname by Tina
Regarding the question of whether (or when) Ike and Tina married, and her "right" to use the Turner name, there is an interesting contribution at Talk:Tina_Turner#On_the_name_.22Tina_Turner.22, which in effect states that Ike established the "Tina Turner" name as a stage name first, before it was taken on by Anna Mae Bullock. Can this be verified? Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Turner died at 76 years old at his home in San Marcos, California, near San Diego."
Could this sentence please be removed from the leade? It's redundant, not of usual style, and since his death was not of unusual circumstances, it doesn't need to be explained in the leade. Thanks. 75.5.234.79 (talk) 11:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Removed now. I agree it's not appropriate for the lead. It's also interesting that he died of an apparent cocaine overdose - this would presumably make him one of the oldest people to have died from a recreational drug overdose... I mean, doing cocaine at 76? Now that's hardcore...--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 14:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
