Talk:Ignacy Jan Paderewski

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[edit] What was that famous speech?

Although his "famous speech" is said to have ignited the Greater Poland Uprising, and this fact is mentioned on both pages, neither says what the speech was about. There are no details on the speech, other then the time and location circumstances, and that it started the revolution. What was the speech about? Obviously, it was an important part of his life and the Greater Poland Uprising. You'd think it woul merit description on at least one of these pages. (I'm in a cranky mood. Sorry) -Monk of the highest order(t) 01:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birthplace

He was born in the German Empire, technically -- so how could he have been from a Polish Province if Poland was not a nation at that time? 68.251.69.62 10:09, 27 December 2005 (UTC) In fact he could. Podolia was a province of "Kingdom of Poland", established on Vienna Congress - till 1863 in union with Russian Empire (after 1863 the Kingdom was legally incorporated into Imperial Russia). MWeinz 14:37, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Technically, where he was born was part of the Austrian Empire. Kuryłówka was part of the province of Podole and that was part of Galicia and Lodomeria. I made the proper changes. Norum 31.07.2006

There seems to be some disagreement about this. As of now, our article says it was in Russia. Slonimsky says Podolia was in "Russian Poland". Grove V says he was born in "Kurylowka, Podolia" without specifying the country, but calls him "a Polish pianist". If in fact Kuryłówka was a part of Russia at the time, the primary name of the town should be the Russian name, in both Cyrillic orthography and English transliteration, and the Polish orthography should appear as an alternative version of this name, not the primary name. JackofOz 02:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] His father's occupation

I can't help thinking that the statement "his father was working there as an economist in the local mansion" is a mistranslation. It should probably be accountant or (land) agent/steward. Chicheley 09:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Grove V says his father was "an administrator of very large estates". I'll make the change. JackofOz 02:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ignaz

Please add a brief explanation on variation in names, i.e. Ignaz vs. Ignacy. A-giau 04:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Poland was occupied by Austria, Russia and Prussia [Germany] [for 123 years] - when you were born in the prussian part you had a prussian version of your name. Ignacy is polish name, Ignaz is germanized. [btw: Paderewski of course has nothing to do with german blood]

[edit] Birth Date

The Wikipedia birthdate given for Paderewski is November 6th. All other sources state it as November 18th. If Someone can verify and correct this, please do so. Denismgagliardo 12:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

TWO large infoboxes, repeating pretty much the same information? Why? -- ALoan (Talk) 10:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

This is the perfect illustration of the basic absurdity of the "biobox". They just aren't flexible enough to cope with human beings so we end up with this. A monstrosity this length doesn't even cover one important aspect of Paderewski's life, his career as a composer; whereas the basic facts about P.'s life can be elegantly handled by the introductory paragraph using plain old text (and you don't even need a degree in computer coding to write it!). --Folantin 11:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed, I've scrapped them. The officeholder one was perhaps slightly more useful (or not), but it still presented a one-dimensional caricature. Fireplace 14:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)