Talk:If I Had a Hammer
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An infobox was requested for the Trini Lopez recording of "If I Had a Hammer" at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/List_of_notable_songs/7.
Would the person who keeps deleting my information stop it. It's not bullshit. It's the truth and if you care to do some research you'll find out it is correct.
- It isn't my responsibility to "do some research" to confirm the veracity of what are, frankly, some rather wild and obscure claims regarding this folk song written nearly six decades ago. If your claims are in fact correct, you should have no problem CITING YOUR SOURCES and providing links in the article. Unsourced, your "information" that Pete Seeger and Lee Hays were referencing West Ham United and Tottenham Hotspur when they wrote the song is simply too ridiculous a claim to be included. The reference to Mark Durkan is too trivial to warrant inclusion, and also becomes suspect because of the previous unsourced claim. The Handy Andy reference is also suspect for the same reason. Please either provide some verifiable sources for your claims or leave them out of the article. -Grammaticus Repairo 01:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
If the Handy Andy reference if not true then why has someone other than me included it on the Handy Andy page. There are many song pages which refence people who like the songs when that person has nothing to do with them (they didn't write it, cover it, or know the people who wrote it) so what's wrong with referencing a political leader's liking of a song that has political significance. (it's use in the civil rights movement).
- Because you added all three of these claims together, and because your first claim (concerning English football teams) is rather bizzare (and unsourced), doubt is also cast upon the veracity of your next two claims (Mark Durkan and Handy Andy). I don't have a problem with the Handy Andy reference per se, as it does not come across as unlikely or obscure in and of itself. If it is indeed referenced on the Handy Andy page, then it probably ought to stay, though the argument "then why has someone other than me included it on the Handy Andy page?" holds no water since ANYONE can add ANYTHING to Wikipedia--true or not--and it may or may not be promptly corrected by the rest of the wikipedia community. This is akin to claiming something you read in The National Enquirer is accurate because "they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true".
- The Mark Durkan reference is another story, however. There is no reference to his liking of this song in his wikipedia entry, nor is there any reference to Spongebob Squarepants. The wiki community has rejected your attempt to incorporate this claim about Mark Durkan into the Spongebob article as well. If you want to continue to add largely unbelieveable "facts" to wikipedia articles, feel free. However, the addition of outrageous unsourced information is widely considered vandalism by the wiki community and will generally be promptly deleted. So again, I suggest that you provide verifiable sources for your claims if you want them to remain in the article. -Grammaticus Repairo 17:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
This is an isp address linked to a number of networked computers. The person who put up this information seems to be mixingt truth with fact. Handy Andy did do a cover of this song. I don't know if Mark Durkan likes the song but I do know that he did not write spongebob squarepants. The football reference sounds like it is a blatant lie. Maybe the person who added it was trying to make an (unfunny) pun as West Ham are known as the hammers. I have amended the information on the page to what I see as being honest.
- Sounds reasonable to me. -Grammaticus Repairo 01:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- I take that back...I want a cited source for Durkan's favorite song. -Grammaticus Repairo 16:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
