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[edit] Username query

Yes it does. I am a great fan of the IAF. But I have never been 'in' it.

[edit] The Tireless Contributor Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
You have tremendously contributed to Wikipedia and helped to maintain the quality of articles. So I Chanakyathegreat award you the The Tireless Contributor Barnstar.

Chanakyathegreat 14:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:IST-CIA-TZ.png

Thanks! I'll put it on my back burner for now as there is a lot of catching up to do here! =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re:Bangladesh images

I think you were looking for {{PD-Bangladesh}}, which already exists. There is a link to a short article about BD copyright law of 2000, which is somewhat similar to Indian laws, i.e. photos are in PD after 60 years; govt photos are copyrighted, etc.

Thanks. --Ragib 07:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forget him

Hello. I am talking to you after a long time. Forget him: [1]. In case people find that one destructive, he/he shall be suitably dealt with by someone. I find that taking any action is of no use as our processes are not capable of dealing with such destructive edits, if any! Thanks. --Bhadani 10:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hyderabad 1800s image

Thankyou for decorating the page on Hyderabad, Pakistan with such a priceless piece of photography. This is just to say that your efforts are worthy and hold dear to my heart. For more than two years, I have been collecting information on the city because it holds its very own place in my heart. I appreciate your efforts. If you may have any other information or photographs regarding the city, you are always welcome to contribute. Thanks. - Arun Reginald 18:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aurangzeb

Thanks for staying on top the Aurangzeb edit mess.--Nemonoman 05:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to Newkirk and PETA

Please bear in mind that all edits must conform to BLP, V, NOR, and NPOV. Your edits violated almost all of them. The Newkirk edits violated BLP, as did your edit summary; the PETA edits used terrible sources, and you can't write that a group has "advance knowledge of terrorist acts." Please review the content policies. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 15:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to Ingrid Newkirk violate WP:BLP. If you continue to add the same material without explaining the context, you may be reported. Please note that BLP violations are blockable offenses. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Idleguy, I'm sorry, but this kind of writing is unacceptable: "Critics of PETA point to this statement, that the organization, like its leader, has double standards in advocating others to refrain from killing animals while have indulged in killing of animals instead of finding a home for it." You can't just leave it there, or keep reverting when others remove it. There are similar problems with your other edits. SlimVirgin (talk) 19:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what you mean about double standards. I'm talking about the English. This is the English Wikipedia, and the writing has to be of a minimum standard; if you want to quote from good sources, do so, but don't put words in their mouths, and then revert when people tell you the writing is unacceptable. As for POV pushing, you're the only one I can see who doing that by, for example, deliberately leaving out the context of Newkirk's statement about killing animals in the pound. The context casts a completely different light on it. SlimVirgin (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your note

Idleguy, before you jump to any conclusions, try to read my edit summaries. I did read your edits and it's very possible that many could be acceptable, if properly presented. The issue is that you must present your information and sources while following WP rules, e.g. WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NPOV, etc. As I suggested in the Talk page, try to create a change set that relies only on acceptable sources; CCF/AnimalScam are not. We may tweak the language if it's not NPOV enough, but proper sources would not be rejected. So please give it a shot, do it the right way, and see what happens. Thanks, Crum375 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Since you are the one adding to or modifying the article, you should try to create a changeset that relies strictly on acceptable sources. Yes, in theory it's possible for others to modify your edits for you, but it would be much more efficient for you to do it and then for others to just do the final tweaking if needed. Crum375 19:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
If the records CCF cites are publicly available, then those would be admissible in principle, but they cannot be cited via CCF. So all you need to do is find the same records via another, admissible, site, or from the originator of the records. Crum375 20:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indian Navy article requires citation.

In the Indian Navy article, that you have contributed requires a citation for the part According to a report published by the US Congress, the Indian Navy could be among the top three navies in the world by 2009[citation needed].. The report cannot be found. Your help is required in this regard.

Chanakyathegreat 03:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Language rank of Bengali and Telugu

Hi! I have requested Nichalp to have a look at this language rank problem. I admit that nic site is a good source, and nic sites have been used as census data reference ( as in Demographics of India). The problem is language data of 2001 census is not available. Let's see what Nichalp has to say in this regard. Can you suggest any other people who can comment on this? (may be Bhadani or Gurubrahma?) --Dwaipayan (talk) 16:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BLP Violation warning

Regarding this edit summary:

You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you do, you may be blocked for disruption. See the blocking policy. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

For someone supposedly keen on ensuring the image policies are adhered to, you should know that you can't claim fair use of an image (the sniper) recently taken specially for The New York Times, because it is still worth money; and I don't think you can claim fair use for the CNN/PETA shot unless you use it in the CNN article. SlimVirgin (talk) 09:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mathews

I don't know which is correct. We'll have to find an original cite or a reliable source who refers to it. I would guess that "gays" is correct, as "guys" would be an odd expression to use. But I'm speculating. SlimVirgin (talk) 10:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] PETA

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[edit] Back from India

I've arrived back from india after a good tour.Your SAbardrtri pl check it spelling i always misled it is in fact the best Train in India.it was a pleasureable experience.Yousaf465

the lost has pointed out correct i think it is this train about which i was talking about.Yousaf465

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[edit] Indian Article

The section on Indian military in the India article need to be expanded. This is a main article and hence the Military information need to be precise. Requesting your help in expanding it. Thanking you. Chanakyathegreat 04:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] S Seagal

Please see this most recent edit [2].Hkelkar 16:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, see this other article started by him. May be a Pakistani Nationalist POV fork of another article on Ahuja[3]. Hkelkar 18:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RIAF Vs IAF

I just reverted the edits made to the Indian air force page. it is a common mistake to assume the IAF was established as the RIAF in 1932. It was set up just as the IAF. It did not get the "Royal" prefix till 1945, so refering to it as RIAF in 1932 is inaccurate. The IAF was RIAF only for the years 1945-1950 jaiiaf 18:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Siachen errors

Idleguy, thanks for pointing out that you respect my role as a professional geographer. Unfortunately, your incorrect Siachen edits continue the pattern apparent from above that, at the very least, you are sometimes hurried or careless in your fact checking with some of your edits. Forgive me for "piling on", but you are simply wrong about your Siachen Glacier length....it is 70, not 80 km long, as you are regarding your positions claiming (falsely) Pakistani control over some of the Siachen Glacier and over Gyong La.
Most odd was your reverting to your incorrect facts while:
1) in the case of length, not even noticing the conflicting footnote which you left untouched where I explained the methodology of measuring glacier lengths including 70, not 80km, for Siachen, using:
a. modern satellite imagery such as Google Earth, b. good Russian AND good Swiss maps, and c. a modicum of geographic expertise. I can assure you, having just returned from the Karakoram with GPS and maps in hand and having walked the 2nd longest glacier a bit west of Siachen from end to end, that wild, unsubstantiated, Internet guesses at glacier length for that region are invariably not even close to accurate. I invite you to try this methodology rather than just reverting to a figure that you found on some internet site.
2) in the case of claiming incorrectly that Pakistan controls Gyong La, your idea of contributing to accurate information on this key pass is to delete my entire reference (coordinates, etc.) on its location (taken from any good map of the area including those cited above.) I'm sorry, but deleting someone else's relevant information to disguise your incorrect facts is not going to win you friends in editing Wikipedia entries.
I have corrected these three errors (first paragraph above) again, and I would hope that you continue your obviously helpful edits in many entries and varied topics. But for geographic facts and figures such as these, I am sorry that you may not have the resources that we have in our offices where we follow geographic aspects of locations like the Siachen-Saltoro region very closely and have to "get it right." Thanks in advance for respecting that expertise.
Finally, I have seen some of the dated and/or inaccurate Internet claims that Pakistan controls Gyong La or that the Siachen Glacier (which from longest and uppermost "tributary" to snout is within a few hundred meters of 70 km) is somehow 8 or 10 km longer! So I understand how you may have felt obliged to copy and paste these into the Siachen article, but next time I encourage you to first do some measurements from available sources.
By the way, all of the Internet sources are not wrong. The map at http://im.rediff.com/news/2005/may/26siachen.gif explains that India has, for some time now, controlled the Saltoro watershed ridge crest which includes all three main passes.....It controls everything east of and a bit west of the line shown on that map, leaving all of Siachen Glacier and Gyong La in its control.
And at http://svaradarajan.blogspot.com/2005/06/siachen-solutions-for-taking.html , note the passage: "The purpose of authentication is to ensure that after a withdrawal has been effected, Pakistan will not move back to its old positions or up Gyong La, Bilafond La and Sia La — the three passes along the Saltoro range — to positions currently held by India."
Thanks. --Dlinth (talk) 12:33, 02 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You have got work

MiG Incident and Indo-Bangladesh Border Conflict of 2001 Chanakyathegreat 10:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] India in World War II

Ok, I will help out with this article.

I just got Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi as a featured article. Now, I am gonna get New York City to be featured. Once that is done, I will fix up this article...

Mercenary2k 05:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Op Meghdoot

See this change that corrected the error I was pointing out on the talk page, I wonder how did you not see it? --TheFEARgod (Ч) 11:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Battle of Ghazni

Hi idleguy,

I just created this article, Battle of Ghazni which was a battle that took place during the First British Afghan War. Please link this article around so it can generate traffic. I created this article because the Multan Company participated in this battle. Thanks Mercenary2k 19:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award

Thanks for the Award. We have some differences about India/Pakistan but its nothing personal. Mercenary2k 08:40, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indo-Pak air war edit and stuff

There were two consensuses, including that it could be added to the seperate see also section without crowding the relevant section. To get over that, you deleted the whole see also section. I think you are not trying to meet me halfway here, and moreover assuming ownership over the article. I really can't understand what your objection is. It is a biographical stub, and could be expanded by link from this very relevant page. You are claiming it is insignificant, I am claiming it is interesting trivia and a notable stub that has the chance to improve. Me having created the article doesn't have anything to do with it. I'd rather you discussed this with me via out talkpages before we start what is increasingly looking like an edit war.No hard feelings.Rueben lys 11:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Donations

I think it would be better if you mail wikipedia. (Yes all mails are read). My internet connection at the moment is too unstable at the moment to research on it, and I will be on vacation from the 28th, so wouldn't be able to follow up. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas

Hey, I have noticed you are editing Kollywood articles, Well done!

User:Cookie90, User:Hariharan91 and I have agreed the following for Tamil movies

  • All films to have necessary templates eg.plots, spoiler warnings
  • All films to have images
  • Much more films
  • More actors

Thanking You, please contribute.

Merry Christmas

Prince Godfather 18:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Yousaf465

He is adding India on State-sponsored terrorism. I saw in history that he did this earlier and you fixed it. Could you talk to him (his english seems to be rather poor so I can't understand him) as he has been putting extremist POV this across multiple articles, including Lashkar-e-Toiba. Rumpelstiltskin223 07:31, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Explained

The Haganah was described as such by then super power The British so there is no point in denying that fact.The Nagaland Rebels are partisan bcz they are figthing against the what they think as occupation of their land.About State-sponsored terrorism article i would to say that India is being accused by Pakistani media if you ever looked at it.This is fact if you watch state owned Tv of Pakistan.User talk:Yousaf465

[edit] Lashkar-e-Toiba

The article accuses ISI and Pakistani government of supporting it without giving any source.That is why i removed all that stuff which might seem as extremist POV.Is blaming without solid evidence is not a Pov?.User talk:Yousaf465

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[edit] BangladeshCartoon.jpg

Hi Idleguy, you added Image:BangladeshCartoon.jpg but the source of this image isn't clear to me. Someone else added link to "The Liberation Times" as a source but contradicts your filling which states The Times of India. Can you please make it clear where did you get this image from? Thank you.--Pethr 19:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Idleguy, thank you for your reply. That clarifies a lot. Unfortunately the date of publication is unknown - that weakens the fair use case a bit. Such information should be included.--Pethr 03:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar

You input is needed on the page. Some users believe he is somehow "Pakistani".Bakaman 03:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

O and btw take a look at Partition of India.Bakaman 19:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] you again and again remove a whole section

Pl don't vandlise the page.What about the india's involvement with Bla.?User talk:Yousaf465

[edit] you again and again remove a whole section

Pl don't vandlise the page.What about the india's involvement with Bla.?User talk:Yousaf465

[edit] Vandalism

Pl don't vandlise the page.What about the india's involvement with Bla.?User talk:Yousaf465

    • Please stop vandalising articles related to Pakistani Military, maintain a neutral perspective (Please read Wikipedia:NPOVbefore editing any further) or you will be reported to an English Wikipedia Administrator for misconduct. You have been warned previously as well, this may be the last time. Becareful next time.

Concentrate on articles neutrally do not express your views of Indian heroism. Faraz 16:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] apology

I'm sorry for the bombardment it was just due to some error with wikipedia and i was getting a error by wikipedia on active page.Was also in hurry to quickly send a msg.User talk:Yousaf465


[edit] Help

Can you help on the following

Aga Khani Islamic Cults

I need independent input on these and I think you have knowledge on these subjects as far as it relates to South Asia

thanks

trueblood 04:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vemana clothing

Please see my comment on Vemana page and reply there. Mlpkr 19:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Indian Army

Indian Army page has been vandalised, may have happened long back. Please correct it. Chanakyathegreat 14:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Please check whether there is any Vandalism in Indian Army articles and other articles like Kargil war. I made certain changes to the Indian Army article to include the truth and removed certain parts that did not provide any links and certain religious viewpoints. Chanakyathegreat 14:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar

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[edit] The Ethnicity of the solidiers in the pic you uploaded

Dear Idleguy, you have captioned the pic [[4]] and said that the soldiers are Muslim. I also noticed the same written on the reference site that you have taken this picture from. With no offense, can I request you to kindly satisfy my doubts on the soldiers in this picture being muslim? Seeing the appearance of the soldiers in the picture I have a feeling that the soldiers are Sikhs and not muslims. A. S. AulakhTalk 06:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Video

Were you asking about video a while back? I've put a reply up here. Stephen B Streater 09:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi

Hi Idleguy nice to meet you. Can you do me a favour that is keep an eye on the martial races article, there a look of anons and newly joined anon-wikis adding stuff from fringe and extreme sites. Anyone can get a few website links together and make any group look bad. Wikipedia is NOT for original research, wikipedia says this is AGAINST its laws and rules. Therefore, please do me a favour and make sure there isn't idiots putting Wikipedia:No original research on the article as this against wikipedia's laws and rules. Thanks - take care friend :-).--Indian50 12:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pov to npov

"which was know as "Badmash" by Pakistani pilots due to it's threat to invading Indian who were unable to match up to it's thunder" this was Not meant to state that air superiority was reached. it only meant that INDIAN pilots were fearful of this aircraft due to it's speed.This a open fact ask any pilot or person of the time working with PAF or IAF about this.So how this statement was changing fact it did not at all talked of air superiority.User talk:Yousaf465

I didn't added that "Many of the independent sources, even one of the India military chiefs at that time admitted the total air superiority achieved by the Pakistani air force with in 3 days of the war." line.By invading i meant that this particualr war machine was mostly used over Pakistani airspace so indian were in invading position.

Even your assumption that it was Pakistan which statred the war then your are denying three major pre war events I don't know if Indian mention those events or not but it was India's plan to move into desert.User talk:Yousaf465

The events i was talking about were India's "Unprovoked agression,pure and simple" on Rann of Kutch border.This samll army was ejected from this area.In aftermath of this event Indria Ghandi, announced: "India will respond at a time and place of her own choosing".The next response was In july 1965 in Northern areas along the 1948 cease-fire line where Indians conducted a surprise "surgical operation".The Pakistan responed in haste with Infiltraion of commandos this was only done to divert the Indians from Chamb area although operation Gibra;ltor failed but diversion was succesful and Pakistan second operation area was a relative success.And Indria Ghandhi's place choosen was Lahore and time was early hours of 6 September 1965.It was at 1000 hours on 6th Sept. 1965 that war was declared by Ayub Khan:"this is war".So pl let know the problem with this all.User talk:Yousaf465


It was just her saying so which seems to give this impression.If India has not run into Runn of Kutch had not reveneged it then there couldn't have been any such war!.So who was wrong this way.User talk:Yousaf465

[edit] Added some more stuff

I have squeezed some stuff between your edits in Martial Race. Please take a look. Thanx! Fuzzone 21:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Greetings

Happy Holi !!--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] India-Israel relations

Since you had contributed to this article earlier, perhaps you can respond to issues raised by a user [5] who is trying to paint Indians as Jew haters[6]. Triedsolve 16:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't intent at all to display Indians as Jew haters, I'm just questionning the global validity of that article and its partisan references. At least some of my remarks were true since 2 references have been deleted since. I have many other contestations. Also, another question: according to you, for what reason user Triedsolve does not seem to be able to answer directly ?TwoHorned 15:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Peer review/Shahbag/archive2

I have just put the article to peer review. Would you care to take a look? Aditya Kabir 20:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sino-Indian War

Hello, the Sino-Indian War page has the sources required to make it an FA, I see you have made FAs with war articles before and would appreciate some help with the article. Traing 22:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translations?

Are you also contributing to ta: and te:? I just noticed Koneru Humpy doesn't have an article in any Indian language Wikipedia, especially not in Telugu. Perhaps you are interested to fill the gap or know somebody to ask for it. --Pjacobi 16:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BritishIndianArmy.jpg

Hello Idleguy Quick question about your image which states in the info that these are Muslim soldiers. The dress suggests Sikh to me, and as near as I can make out, the legend on the original pic says "Hindustani Musilmans", though the resolution isn't clear enough to make out for sure. So my question is, are they definitely Muslim (as you say), are they Hindu (as the Hindustani part of the caption says), or are they Sikh? I was just wondering as a result of the discussion and changes going on in the article on the Second Battle of Ypres. You can contact me on my talk page, if you prefer. Esseh 12:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Idleguy. Rather suspected as much. Any idea as to the composition of the "Lahore Division" mentioned in the Second Battle of Ypres? Esseh 12:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great Power

As our resident expert in the Indian subcontinent military stuff, it seems fitting you check out the page and Faraz (talk · contribs) and Mercenary2k (talk · contribs) who are trolling, adding unsourced tidbits of cruft.Bakaman 01:34, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chola incident and Bharat Rakshak

User:Yuje on Talk:Sino-Indian War is placing an unsourced tag on detailed histories on the Chola incident because they are sourced from a Bharat Rakshak article written by LN Subhramaniam. Could you please comment. Traing 07:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SSG Article

I think u should mind ur own business and not interfere with Pakistan Army Articles. If u are too much interested then work on the INDIAN ARMY articles. I never change any of India related articles because I know this shows the feeling of hatred and I think u are completely filled with HATRED. Just Hatred and nothing else. I don't know who allowed u 2 b working on the WIKIPEDIA site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.83.173.122 (talk) 16:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Drive by POV

In case you didn't know me and another user have been discussing the issue on Talk:Siachen Glacier. It was by no means a drive by POV addition in the article, next time please read the talk page before editing. Faraz 00:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PoE_adapter.jpg

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[edit] Rann of Kutch

Hello Idleguy,

On November 15 2006 you added "At its greatest extent, the Gulf of Kutch on the west and the Gulf of Cambay on the east are both united during the monsoon." to the article Rann of Kutch. I tried to find a primary or secondary source for this fact, but could not find it. Can you tell me where you have read this? Thanks in advance, --Jeroenvrp 17:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SSG

I think this person is mad and is suffering from inferiority complex. Idleguy! don't be afraid, Pakistanis won't eat you. He has many lunatic tendencies. First of all he corrects the article, according to Indian perspective, and if someone tries to correct it, he calls it vandalism. What about that vandalism what you are doing on Wkikipedia. He is totally a mad person and is bringing bad name to India. I think may be he is a member one of the extremist Hindu organizations who haven't recognized Pakistan as yet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.83.173.122 (talk) 18:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Special Service Group

One of the link provided by you (Idleguy)is http://www.kashmirsentinel.com/apr1999/3.9.html If you read the passage, you would come to know that Pakistan raised an elite Special Service Group (SSG) commandos in 1987, now it is upto you to decide who is trying to mislead others. If SSG was raised in 1987, then how could it have taken part in the 1965 & 1971 Wars. This means the whole article has been written by some Anti-Pakistan writer. Moreover, it says that Gen Musharraf was leading the attack, I have close contacts in SSG, and I can assure you that he never served in SSG either as Battalion Commander or a Brigade Commander or a Division Commander. He was in SSG only till he was a major and has never been posted to SSG again.

[edit] Special Service Group

Im very sorry about that. I did not realise you corrected the vandalism and did not cause it. Please accept my sincere apologies.

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[edit] (Moved from userpage to here)

Reply to question about deleting the Pak source. Sorry, thought this was vandalism (!) didn't read through the passage to find the comments. Put it back if you like. Your ally Mike Young PS Perhaps you could find time to sort you own user page out: I can't read it all!! Mike Young 11:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fa status of Kargil conflict

As there are still serious issues with article.It's doesn't seems to be a Fa article for the WP Paksiatn as it only meets the folling criteria:

"Has several of the elements described in "start", usually a majority of the material needed for a completed article. Nonetheless, it has significant gaps or missing elements or references, needs substantial editing for English language usage and/or clarity, balance of content, or contains other policy problems such as copyright, Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) or No Original Research (NOR). With NPOV a well written B-class may correspond to the "Wikipedia 0.5" or "usable" standard. Articles that are close to GA status but don't meet the Good article criteria should be B- or Start-class articles."

Until those issues are not solved the article status can't be raised on Wp Pakistan even if it qualifies for the Fa by the Wp India. Thanks. User talk:Yousaf465

The issues are being mentioned periodically not by a single editors.So there are some serious issues which need to be resolved before it's status is upgraded.So resolve the issues before reverting the satus.Thanks.User talk:Yousaf465


ALL those articles from the stubs to Fa are graded after examing them for their contents.After whcih a specfic grade is awarded to it.User talk:Yousaf465

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[edit] The Herald does not count as a legitimate source

Hello, I see that you keep adding "The Herald" source back. But the source is unverfiable. I have said this to you many times, and I can understand since English is not your mother tounge. But unverfifable means that the source cant be proven whether its actually legitimate or not. The herald source simply implies that "The Herald said .....", without providing any links or any source locations. This DOES NOT count as a legitimate source. For example I can add to some random article, "The herald said pigs fly now", without adding a legetimate source/link, would anyone believe this? Offcourse not. So, if you want to use "The herald source", Please providie a verifiable link, where the validity of the source can be proven. Thanks --Cranberryjuice10 19:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Cranberry juice, you forgot to check the references for the herald link [7] jaiiaf 22:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Special Service Group

Please do not undo other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing in Special Service Group, or you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. The three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the 3RR. Thank you. - Alison 16:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Your anon friend is up to his 3 per 24 hour ruling. One more revert from that guy and he will be blocked. - Alison 16:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] President of Pakistan

Thanks for adding to peer review.hope it passes it.User talk:Yousaf465

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[edit] Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:UnitedPakistan

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[edit] Pakistan Army

The comments concerning Fauji Foundation are not vandalism so dont remove them

trueblood 04:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] B12/Veganism

Hi. Hey, my problem with including the info about B12 where you did is that it isn't a precaution about veganism but a warning about B12 supplements, so it should be on the B12 page if there is one. Large amounts of iodine are poisonous. A lot of info has been coming out about vitamin D that could be included here, but like the B12 info you posted, it is interesting but not relevent to veganism, per se. I think the specific risk of veganism is a shortage of B12 - not the danger of cancer for getting too much - which vegans might do but which is more related to vitamins than it is to veganism. Make sense? - Bob98133 12:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] 1965 images

Hello,

You removed my images from the article by claiming that the images should not be allowed to stay on Wikipedia. If you have a problem with them, you are welcome to nominate them for deletion. Until such time that they are deemed to not fall under fair use however, you are not justified in removing them. Only reason I think you did this is out of a desire to prevent pictures depicting Pakistani victories. In the other Indo-Pak war articles, there are plenty of pictures from the Indian side, and I kept the Indian pictures on the 1965 article as well (except the bridge picture, which is really quite useless).

So you are requested to bring the pictures to the attention of the proper persons if you wish to have them removed, but in the spirit of fairness, I ask you to please refrain from removing them yourself unless they are dleted.

Thank you. Zaindy87 03:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, if you have a problem with the pictures, have them nominated for deletetion. Don't act like a hotshot admin. I see you've already been warned by an admin for repeatedly vandalising the SSG page. Don't turn this into a revert war.Zaindy87 03:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
And by "Pakistani victories", I meant individual battle victories, not victory in the war as a whole. I think it has been quite clearly established that the war was indeed a stalemateZaindy87 03:26, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Pakistan Army

This guy Zaindy87 keeps on vandalizing my edits on this article like the surrender image of Pakistan Army in 1971 which is very important part of Pakistan Army history. Also I made the article into sub paragraphs for clarity and he keeps on deleting them, I recommend this guy for a ban for being uncivil and using Pakistan Army page as propaganda rather than reality

trueblood 03:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


I concur, I say the images, unless he is the person who was at the Pakistan Army airport with the Mi7 helicopters these are not his pictures. As his user page clearly shows that he is a kid who wants to grow up and fly a plane.

I would also recommend that he be banned

trueblood 04:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


This guy also used a lot of other names as I checked the other photos and they are all his

trueblood 05:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] user names

Faraz

Sulaimandaud

Hbtila

I am not sure if they are all the same but the images dont have licenses as obviously these kids did not take these photos

trueblood 05:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Operation Gibraltar Good Article review

Hello Idleguy. Thanks for your quick response to my GA review of the above article. I'm actually a newbie GA reviewer, and under new proposals on GAC Talk to improve the quality and consistency of GA reviews I have asked an experienced reviewer to quality-check my review. I'm waiting for him to get back to me at the moment (unfortunately he has been taken ill). Your recent changes have definitely improved the article though. I still think it would benefit from a minor copyedit - whilst your English is excellent, some of the prose and grammar could be further improved. If it's ok, I don't mind doing this myself - as long as that doesn't invalidate my status as reviewer in this case (I'm checking this one at the moment). Regards EyeSereneTALK 13:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback - you are quite correct, I've been informed that a GA reviewer can make minor copyedits etc on the article they are reviewing. I'll make any necessary edits this weekend when I've got more time, and should hopefully be able to pass the article then (as per above, another GA reviewer has looked it over as well, and they had a couple of suggestions too). Regards EyeSereneTALK 12:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, I've been through the article again and made a few prose edits, and also changed all the web cites using the recommended template. One thing the second reviewer did recommend that I wasn't sure how to do, was to move the table (with the names/operation areas of the infiltration forces) over from the centre of the article to the side, preferrably with wrap-around text - currently it breaks up the flow of the text. I'll leave this one to you ;) Once this is done, let me know and I'll be happy to pass the article. Cheers EyeSereneTALK 10:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
No probs - I don't see it as a major problem anyway, and in itself not an obstacle to a pass. Thought of a way to do it - I've added an infobox tag to the front of the table which seems to have helped (check the code; it only needed a tiny change) EyeSereneTALK 17:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Pass

Congratulations Idleguy: following your edits in response to my GA review, I have now passed Operation Gibraltar as a Good Article under WP:GAC. You may wish to copy the template {{User Good Article|Operation Gibraltar}} and paste it to your user page or other suitable location. It will produce the userbox:

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Thank you for your hard work, and well done! EyeSereneTALK 17:35, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Ponzi.jpg

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[edit] Image:Ponzi.jpg

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[edit] Your edits to WP:Pakistan

Hi Idleguy. Referring to your insistance on keeping Op Gibraltar, pls note that WP:PAK is a project page and not a list of important events. If you expect collaboration on the article, use relevant section or project's Talk page. Tagging a GA and adding to the project's achievement is not good practice. Thanks for reverting your edit and respecting the integrity of the project, otherwise we may end up with lists of FAs and GAs, which is not the real purpose of a project page. Also see WP:WPREF2--IslesCapeTalk 15:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Kanhoji.jpg

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[edit] Image is not wrongly tagged

How is the image of the 1971 war I uploaded "wrongly tagged" and "misleading" ? It is an image from the war, and I acquired permission to use it via Wikipedia's recommended method. I emailed the copyright holder, and he granted me permission to use it under the GFDL lisence. I have forwarded that email to Wikimedia commons as is required. If you still doubt my word, you may email the copyright holder, Mr. Usman Shabbir and ask him yourself.

His email is listed on the bottom right corner of this page: http://www.pakdef.info/

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Please don't remove the image from articles just because you don't like it. Zaindy87 08:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The question is, does Pakdef.info itself own copyright to the image? I hardly think so. The image seems to be taken by army photographers, and so Pakdef.info is in no position to grant or delegate copyright to any images it displays on its site. --Ragib 08:39, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Shabbir was a part of the Army unit which is seen in this picture. He took the photograph, therefore he owns the copyright. He is a contributor to the PakDef.info site, and he has allowed it to host the picture just like he has now allowed me to upload it to Wikimedia under the GFDL. Zaindy87 09:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the award

Thanks for the award you gave me! It is good to be appreciated. I also appreciate your policing the article on First Kashmir War. Hmm, I have some work on the Bangladesh liberation war. I'll see if I can add that. How do you get the privilege of giving awards to people? Mike Young 18:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

In appreciation of the award, I've upgraded the first of the pictures in First Kashmir War, as per your suggestion of several months ago. Does this look OK? Would value your feedback before I do the other 9! Mike Young 13:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Pictures now finished: Hope you like them!Mike Young 09:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Full of potentials. --Bhadani (talk) 16:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Pakistan Army

This user Zaindy87 keeps on vandalising the Paksitan Army site and deletes confimred documented facts.

trueblood 03:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Khem Karan

Hi IdleGuy. Due to your objection to the picture, I have changed its caption. Now it does not imply that Pakistan kept the town. Therefore, there is no reason for you to get in a revert war over it. If you have any further points to discuss, please raise the issue on the discussion page of the relevant article. Thanks. Zaindy87 16:16, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] For help you seem to be the right person to turn to

I have been checking out your contributions to the articles on South Asian wars, and what I found made me very confidant that I have found the right person to ask for help. Please, take another look at the Bangladesh Liberation War article. I see that it copies a lot of stuff from Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, spread over two sections, and 1971 Bangladesh atrocities, which looks like a better place to accommodate much of the information provided in the Liberation War article. I sincerely believe that reducing redundancy between articles and evolving articles to sharper and neater shape is a much desirable goal. I have laid my hands on books and documents that enables to provide more information on the war itself, from a Bangladeshi perspective (though the books necessarily aren't of Bangladeshi origin). Looking forward to some advise and, if possible, a hand lent to the article. Please, respond to my talk page. Cheers. Aditya(talkcontribs) 09:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Can you suggest any other editor who may take an interest in the article and/or have an experience with military history? An extra pair of hand never hurt anyone. Aditya(talkcontribs) 09:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for inviting

For that i have to re-read the book about his life written by his great-grandson.He lives in Lahore so if i will be able to contact him then it would be great.What do you say his Great-grandson can provide much more information then other sources.User talk:Yousaf465 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 03:54, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I have got his address.User talk:Yousaf465 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yousaf465 (talkcontribs) 13:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Triple Crown

I, Durova, recognize Idleguy with the Triple Crown for exceptional content improvements to Wikipedia.  Thank you for all you do. DurovaCharge! 21:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I, Durova, recognize Idleguy with the Triple Crown for exceptional content improvements to Wikipedia. Thank you for all you do. DurovaCharge! 21:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Your Majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow the Triple Crown in recognition of your contributions to Wikipedia. May you wear them well. DurovaCharge! 21:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Atlantique Incident GA Sweeps Review on Hold

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[edit] The book cover is here.

I have uploaded the his book cover which you may find here.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Combined.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yousaf465 (talkcontribs) 13:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Citations

To properly cite a scientific fact or finding, use PubMed, and use a proper citation method, eg [8]. Thanks.   Skopp   13:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you not understand the sentence above?   Skopp   04:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Pics

What happened to the pictures on the Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 article? Mike Young 21:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Operation Gibraltar GAN sweeps: On Hold

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[edit] Bangladesh Liberation War

I have done a full restructure of this article, would value your comments Mike Young 21:08, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your contributions to Jayalalitha Article

Regarding your edits to Jayalalitha article. You may like to look this. I wish to suggest you to adhere to the spirit of following sentence.

If you see a removal of such content, and you disagree with the removal, do not edit-war to restore the information. Instead, participate in the discussion on the talk page.

I don't agree that consensus was reached on this issue before. Few people have raised concerns and you simply told them it is sourced. Whereas it clearly violates WP:UNDUE. WP:LIVING and Wikipedia:Avoiding harm specifies multiple conditions for adding sourced contents. Content you wish to add does not meet those requirements. If we cannot reach consensus then we can go for Third opinion to evaluate whether it satisfies WP:UNDUE and whether wordings satisfies WP:SYN.--Indianstar 08:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kargil War - Neutrality issue NOT addressed

User:Idleguy - DO NOT Remove tag on this article without addressing the POV issue. I have clearly raised an issue which appears to be quite obvious throughout the article - the Picture referenece was "an example" of the outstanding problem.

DO NOT force what you think should happen upon the enitre reader base. You are by no means the benchmark commentator who's opinion or efforts should be the only one credited - nor should you express your furstration towards the rest of readers.

You are attempting to do the one thing that should be avoiding while editing on thsi encyclopedic site - START AN EDIT WAR based on India-Pakistan national pride. PLEASE CALM YOUR TONE and try to address the issue for what it is.

I will report you as a vandal to appropriate admin group(s) if you try to stir up racial/nationalist tension by isolating specific issues to taunt "the other side" - i.e. - Pakistani Editors. YOU MUST BE NEUTRAL WHILST WRITING ABOU|T HISTORIC EVENTS ON AN ENCYCLOPEDIC SITE - THIS IS NOT A WAR MAGAZINE!

Once again - the issue appears to be the tone of the article gives out the impression of a one-sided argument. AN EXPERT REVIEW SHOULD BE CONDUCTED TO VERIFY THE NEUTRALITY OF THE ARTICLE.

Thanks -- Ash sul 13:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Fightality.gif

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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:62 war.jpg

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It might be hard to find a free image for this war but certainly magazine covers are not the best way to go. They should only ever be used for articles which are about the magazine, or the particular issue of the magazine, and not to illustrate the topic that happened to be featured on the magazine cover. Purgatorio (talk) 20:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Spiffier triple crown, new awards available

The standard triple crown.
The standard triple crown.

Hi, I've been sprucing up the triple crown awards. Here's the new version of the standard triple crown you've already earned. Feel free to replace your old one with this if you like the new version better. I've also introduced two new triple crown awards for editors who've done a lot of triple crown work: the Napoleonic and Alexander the Great edition awards. If you're active in a WikiProject, check out the new offer for custom WikiProject triple crowns. I'll make those upon request if five or more editors qualify. See User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle for more information. Thanks for your hard work, and cheers! DurovaCharge! 21:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:62 war.jpg

Since we seem to have differing opinions about whether this image is covered by fair use, it seems sensible to take it to WP:FUR where someone more neutral can look over it? I copied over the fair use rationale provided so that people can consider the points you made there, but if you want to comment in addition to that, that'd probably help to show both sides of the story! Regards, Purgatorio (talk) 19:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Battle of Assal Uttar

There seem to be lot of changes in the Battle of Assal Uttar article. Can you look into it. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 02:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:65 war.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Kargil.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Herald.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Kashmir treaty.jpg

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Kashmir treaty.jpg)

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Kashmir treaty.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Kashmir treaty.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Herald.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Herald.jpg

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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Baldwin_pinwheel_calculator.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:1965pakantitankgun.jpg}

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Lahore_1895.jpg}

While your contributions to Wikipedia are great, I don't think it is appropriate to take images from other websites like the one above and others from Harappa.com and put them in the public domain without asking the owner. Each of these images has a copyright on the bottom of the page. To argue that they are more than 50 years old is not relevant; the scans made of these images are contemporary and not more than 50 years old and not in the public domain. You need the original, or an older than 50 year version to make a copy you can put in the public domain. Certainly it is only appropriate to ask permission from the site owner before doing this. Harappa2 (talk) 17:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:SiachenTIME.gif)

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:ArchieMoore1.jpg}

Thank you for uploading Image:ArchieMoore1.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check:

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[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Solaris10.jpg

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[edit] Kargil War

I tried finding the relevant discussion to the use of "War" but could not find it in the talkpage, neither could I find the source/person you state. Could you please link me to them. I also have read the note to the use of the term "War", and in my view it sounds as if the article was named "Kargil War" because the Indian government choose to do so. Furthermore, this seems as if its the pride of the victor. India won the conflict and decided it name it a "war" to show pride, for the lack of a better term. --→ Ãlways Ãhëad (talk) 02:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sinking of the PNS Ghazi

Says in the article on the PNS Ghazi that she went down in unexplained circumstances. Says in the Pakistan Navy article that she went down because of a mishap while laying mines. Methinks the two stories need to jive and they currently don't. Marathi_Mulgaa (talk) 08:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)