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Contents 1 Affliations, House of M, Omega Level 2 Other Media 3 Deformation 4 I don't know how to edit. 5 Question about Iceman in the 2nd X-Men Movie 6 Know what would be cool? 7 Jewish? 8 Merge 8.1 Survey 8.2 Discussions 8.3 Powers and abilities 9 Iceman versus Ice-Man 9.1 Survey 10 Two different, nearly identical articles 11 HAVOK/POLARIS/ICEMAN Triangle 12 Biography Section 13 Fair use rationale for Image:Iceman24.jpg 14 X-men: the movie 15 Fair use disputed for Image:12514-iceman 400.jpg 16 thanks for updating the iceman pic!!! 17 Fair use rationale for Image:Iceman(comics).jpg 18 Fair use rationale for Image:Iceman1280-thumb.jpg 19 Fair use rationale for Image:IcemanVSPyro.jpg 20 iceaman from floral park?

[edit] Affliations, House of M, Omega Level

Added a complete list of Icemans previous affliations. --Zib 10:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Linked House of M page to this one --Zib 10:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

added the fact that he is an Omega level mutant.--Zib 09:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Other Media

I added a few notes into the "Other Media" section. Noting Iceman and Rogue's relationship in X2 (a contrast to the typical Rogue and Gambit of the comics) and his strength in the X-Men Legends game.

[edit] Deformation

Can we get another Iceman picture? That one is completely hideous and makes him look more like some sort of down syndrome elemental than Iceman. And isn't even indicative of his current incarnation in either 616 or the Ultimate continuity. TotalTommyTerror 16:22, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

It's from the most recent issue he appeared in (X-Men #178) - SoM 16:54, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it would be better to use an image that is more memorable as Iceman: http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/5/54/Iceman442px.jpg for instance, is the image marvel.com use, and I think it suits much better. Jacobshaven3 09:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Jacobshaven. The smooth form is better recognized, and is the only one I'm aware of appearing outside the comics. The spiked image should be moved to the "Appearance" section. Maxrandom777 08:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I don't know how to edit.

Can anyone edit this? What if their facts are wrong?

Anyway, Iceman is certainly NOT the only X-men to stay with the team for its entire run.

He (along with Angel, Marvel Girl, Havok and Polaris) quit the team in X-men Vol. 1 #94.

He made a few guest appearances afterwards (during Dave Cockrum's 2nd run, for example), but he didn't become an official member of the team again until Uncanny X-men #281, or X-men Vol. 2 #1 (both published in June 1991).

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Try to get an account, log in and sign your comments with four tildes ("~"). Didn't the whole team actually disband in Issue #46 anyway? Luis Dantas 12:54, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

"Before Bobby joined the X-Men he had a girlfriend. Unfortunately, Professor Xavier erased all memories of her from Bobby's head when he told her too much about the X-Men"

i fixed this, it was a girl he met while on leave from the school for a weekend or something. Not form before he was an x-man. He erased the encounter from both thier minds, to protect the girl as much as the x-men.T-Man 10:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

ultimate xavier is like nicky fury one heartless son of a bitc%

[edit] Question about Iceman in the 2nd X-Men Movie

• In the 2nd X-Men movie, why didn't Bobby Drake save the day at the end instead of Jean Grey?

Couldn't he have just frozen the entire water mass of Alkali Lake, instead of having Jean Grey try to push back the water psionically? This would have stopped the potential flood problem immediately. Thoughts? Smeelgova 05:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

He could have, but then they couldn't have the brilliant plot device of Jean dying and coming back as the f*cking Phoenix. But anyway, this isn't a forum.67.142.130.29 21:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Jean was preventing the others from using their powers. And maybe he wasn't that powerful? --DrBat 01:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

That's my vote. The Iceman from the regular comics has been getting steadily stronger over a long period of time, whereas the Iceman from the X-flicks isn't nearly as experienced. He didn't even turn to ice until the end of the third film. EVula 02:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Up to that point, it seemed Bobby required a physical connection to the object he was effecting. Even that icewall he used to seperate Stryker and Wolverine, he had his hand on the wall with an icetrail connecting from the solid wall to the icewall. So I don't think he could have frozen the water without actually being apart of it.....which would have killed him anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.101.82 (talk) 01:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Know what would be cool?

If, I dunno, we could pick a goddamned picture and keep it. Yeah? Wouldn't that just be awesome?67.142.130.41 02:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Agreed. Hopefully something that shows his whole body and has good resulution, too. ACS (Wikipedian) 17:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish?

When was it stated he was Jewish? --DrBat 01:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

News to me. The only thing I was able to find was The Jewish Supers List. EVula 02:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't remember where it was stated, but Bobby's mother is Jewish. That technically makes Bobby half-Jewish ethnically, but I don't think he practices the religion. I think it's just his ethnic background. Breakaway 18:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

If that quote is true, then he is Jewish. The Jewish line follows the mother, so if anyone is born with a Jewish mum (regardless of the fathers religion) the children are Jewish too.Jacobshaven3 09:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Has a Jewish mother and Catholic father. Whether or not he practices judaism or Catholicism is ambiguous. He could practice either Catholicsm (like his father) or Judaism (like his mother) Who knows if his mother became Catholic after marriage or vice versa. Who knows? Ambiguity. That's probably best to leave it at that. 72.251.0.211 19:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Per the WP:COMIC talk page, Ultimate character entries should be merged into the character's main article. --Newt ΨΦ 14:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

• Merge Kusonaga 16:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support per nom. EVula 17:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support - this one's short -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 00:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
• No Merge--Mr Wednesday 21:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge Markeer 16:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge --Chris Griswold 16:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge T-Man 09:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Closed with CONSENSUS TO MERGE CovenantD 17:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussions

Once again the Ultimate characters are their own person. Their becoming a bigger hit than any of the other Ult Universes. Let them be.Mr Wednesday 21:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Powers and abilities

Regarding Iceman's powers, it is obvious that there is a lot one can do when one controls temperature and moisture. However, I don't think an entire section entitled "Iceman's Specific Powers" is needed. A good deal of the information was already in the article under the "Powers" section. If there is a power that you don't see on the page, though, I'd try to weave it into the already existing section. These articles are meant to be as small and concise as possible. Bhissong 18:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)bhissong

[edit] HAVOK/POLARIS/ICEMAN Triangle

Could I get some help with expanding on this issue in the Iceman article? At this point, it is quite confusing as to the exact state of the relationship between the three of them and to specifics behind Polaris refusing Iceman recently and finally apparently choosing Havok. Havok also seems betrayed by Iceman, why? Some help in the article, thanks. (RossF18 05:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Biography Section

The biography section really needs expansion, either that or the publication history section addition and expansion (especially considering the importance of the character, being Omega-level and all). Thanks. (RossF18 05:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Iceman24.jpg

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[edit] X-men: the movie

He may not have been in the movie long but he did several things. One of them one of them is essential to the plot.

• He freezes the flame Pyro creates, and then he says "high I'm Bobby, what's your name?" Rogue replies "Marie" Then he lifts his hand off her desk to reveal an ice rose.
• Then he sees her steel Logans powers.
• Mystique maskerades as him to get her to leave the mansion. She also does this so as not noticed in the mansion.

Why was this deleted from the article. Oh and by the way he was play by Shawn Ashmore.

[edit] Fair use disputed for Image:12514-iceman 400.jpg

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[edit] thanks for updating the iceman pic!!!

It's great to see people keep up with the current incarnation of the character. This picture is much better and more indicative of the character than the previous one.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Iceman(comics).jpg

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[edit] iceaman from floral park?

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Iceman.html wasnt he from floral park, not port washington? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.160.131.23 (talk) 18:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)