Talk:Ibrahim al-Fazari
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[edit] Arab
He was an arab: Scott L. Montgomery. Science in Translation: movements of knowledge through cultures and time. p. 81. "[one] of the astrologers consulted on the propitious moment for the foundation of Baghdad was Muhammad ibn Ibraheem al-Fazari, the section of an ancient Arab family of al-Kufa." Jidan 00:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sources by Mardavich
The source you provided from google book search says (you posted this): "...by the time the Persian geographer Al-Fazari was writing in AD 773-774...". Not enough. If you posted the whole passage (which you can't, becasue you got this from book google) we might know if it's really meant here Ibrahim Al-Fazari, since he wasn't a geographer. Jidan 13:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I already replied to you on the other talk page. Who else could that be referring to? There were only two famous Al-Fazaris at that time, Ibrahim and Mohammad, the father and son--Mardavich 14:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] He is the grand son of the sahabi samra ibn jundub Al-Farazi سمرة بن جندب الفزاري
He was an Arab;he is the grand son of the sahabi سمرة بن جندب الفزاري Sumra ibn Jundub Al-Fazari [1] [2][3][4][5].Therefore how come he is Persian???!!!. I’ll remove the word Persian from both articles (Him and his father) since thier grand father is well-known as Arab, in addition he is not related to Iran because simply he lived in Iraq.--Aziz1005 17:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Aziz, but you're going to have to provide better sources than al-eman.com. I could provide Persian sources if I wanted, but it's better to use third-party sources instead, like we do here. According to the source by (Ervin Lewis and Mildred Bain), he was Persian. Khoikhoi 01:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yea but this sahabi is well-known and the surename proves that.also al-eman is a library and those sources are books for early medieval writers such as Ibn Khaldun and aldhabi.thanks--Aziz1005 20:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Khoikhoi can you please read his son(Muhammad al-Fazari) talk page which provides better third-party sources :).--Aziz1005 20:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
