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Archive 6 Please do NOT edit this page, If you wish to reply to any message on here then please copy the whole conversation to my current talk page. Thanks! Ian13/talk 16:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Template:User United Kingdom/usagepoll 2 Merging histories thanks 3 Old Skool Esperanzial note 4 Elections 5 WikiSupreme Court 6 Thanks! 7 This is Moe 8 Since you put "WikiSupremeCourt" up... 9 CJ Meeting 2 10 Second Community Justice Meeting 11 Check Freenode 12 Please don't. 13 Welcome to VandalProof! 14 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3 15 Thanks for offer of autoblock assistance 16 Thanks 17 Community Justice Newsletter 18 ! 19 Cicero 20 1942 21 Apology 22 VandalProof 1.2 Now Available 23 Wolf Guevara 24 Ian 13 25 Help 26 The Shield Of Civility And The Sword Of Truth 27 Your userpage 28 Community Justice 28.1 Your note 29 Hi! 30 Image:Concordia.svg

[edit] Template:User United Kingdom/usagepoll

The top formatting however was not intone with the vote - which had 4 distinct proposals

I would like to suggest that there were actualy only two proposals in the this poll.

1. The First option was to change the text to lives in.
2. The Second option was to keep the text the same saying comes from.

The only difference is that there were 3 different options for those who wanted to keep the text the same, thus splitting the results.

• Keep the text = 19 votes + my vote
  • Leave the category as is = 0 votes
  • Remove the category = 8 votes
  • Change the category = 11 votes
• Change the text = 19 votes

Like I said before "People go by what the text in the userbox says not its category!" -- UKPhoenix79 01:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

As I said in my vote count, when you remove the duplicates in keep the text (some people voted for both), and count the other, the other still wins. If you however have any evidence to suggest the vote was swung in some way, please feel free to put it forth. Ian13/talk 07:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging histories thanks

Many thanks for merging the histories of 2UNE-FM and TUNE! FM Ian13. Best wishes for the GCSE exams! -Gimboid13 10:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem, that was the first history merge I have done. Thanks! Ian13/talk 12:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elections

Thank you for nominating yourself for the Esperanza elections, unfortunately I think we are closed for nominations and now open for voting. We would love for you to re-nominate yourself for the next elections (June-ish I think) but remember that they start early in the month, with voting towards the end. Hopefully you'll come and show your support for the candidates and cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 16:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Whoops! I didn't realise that. I just notced an elections notice on my talk page a few minates ago. Thanks for letting me know. Ian13/talk 16:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

It's fine, I have nothing else better to :P (hides essay) Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 16:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Meh fine, I'll just shut up now. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 16:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Lol. :) Ian13/talk 17:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Good luck anyways. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 17:12, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

AHHHH! It seems after some confusion I have been allowed to stand. Probably to late, what with one user having 45 supports, but I shall stand all the same. :P Ian13/talk 19:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Well my 9 votes aren't exactly a shining start. I'm doing really good for only being here 4 months. Good luck, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 20:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and good luc to you too! Ian13/talk 21:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Things like this do make your friends on wikipedia come forward, it makes you feel better. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 07:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiSupreme Court

Hi there Ian13, just wondered why you nominated WikiSupreme Court for deletion. Isn't the usual process to reject good faith proposals rather than delete them? (Although, obviously, I think the proposal is a bad idea.) ConDem^Talk 00:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

True. But yet I feel it gives the wrong impression of Wikipedia, and to be fair, there are a fair few delete votes so I am not alone. MfD is open to any page - and really its more of a BJAODN article than proposal. I am following policy through my nomination - and in my opinion, Wikipedia is more common sence than a set of rock solid rules. Hope this helps! Ian13/talk 16:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for your support on the advisory concil elections. Sorry I haven't been on Python much lately, real life is getting hectic. Davidpk212 18:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This is Moe

Hello Ian, just thought I would let you know that I was leaving Wikipedia, but before I left, I finally got a picture of thyself onto Wikipedia. (I know great timing for me to post a picture of myself, right?) This is my final gift to my friends. Later! PS. Try not to laugh to hard at my ugly mug ok? Moe ε 15:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Good bye, and good luck. I am sure you will be missed by all. Ian13/talk 16:32, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Since you put "WikiSupremeCourt" up...

...you might want to know about Wikipedia:Supreme Court of Wikipedia. 68.39.174.238 00:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ Meeting 2

Yep. Sorry for the confusion. Computerjoe's talk 17:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

JA! Computerjoe's talk 17:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Ian13/talk 17:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Community Justice Meeting

I'm just telling all councillors, the chairman and chief executive I would appreciate your thoughts at Wikipedia talk:Community Justice/Meeting 1. Computerjoe's talk 18:19, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Check Freenode

Check your Freenode memos. TY! Computerjoe's talk 18:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Done and solved! Ian13/talk 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't.

Please realize there was another way to speak to me rather than slapping npa on my page. I don't like being warned for something I know full well. I've been trying to get other wikipedians to stop attacking me for a day now.

If you don't know the story and are confused, asking won't hurt and I would be happy to explain (I have on my talk). Kindly remove your warning. I was speaking factually (evidence is on my talk) not subjectively.— nathanrdotcom ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 22:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

If you chose not to remove your warning, it would be helpful if you could explain why on nathanrdotcom's talkpage so that he can most effectively utilize your constructive criticism (if you have time of course, knowing that you have exams and all. BTW, good luck!). Where ^(talk) 23:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I will and thanks. I have put a warning there, because I feel the attacks made were unacceptable, and that he could have expressed his opinions in a more constructive manner. Since the user even expresses they know it what they did - then why did they do it? I put a warning there, and should the user continue making personal attacks, then a block would be the next stage. It should be noted I did provide an explaination with the warning at the time. Ian13/talk 08:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I have revoked my warning, however I will add it again if I feel he is continuing to be disruptive. See his talk page for my full reply... Ian13/talk 08:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Blindly adding warnings without making any effort to discuss the situation and try to solve it without the use of warnings is something I find insulting. I've replied to Ian13's comments in archive6 (yes I archived it, sorry, it was not done to hide my comments but the talk page got to 50 topics) and one on my talk. I feel that you are not making any effort to understand the situation therefore this cannot be resolved. It will be explained on my talk whether I have to do it or someone else has to (edit: it has been explained on my talk), but I feel pasting the logs explained it in well enough detail - I was attacked by multiple parties with no provocation - civility was not the first thing on my mind, I was upset, maybe try taking that into account, hmm?

If I'm someone so liked and respected (from what I hear), you could've handled the situation in another way (by discussion). You did not. — nathanrdotcom ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 18:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I did not blindly warn you in anyway. I provided evidence for my concerns and explained what I felt was wrong. If you have something constructive to say to me, I am more than welcome to hear it and act on it. You say I have not acted by discussion, but from what I can see, since my comment discussion has been higher than ever. You in my opinion were making personal attacks (or at least acting uncivil), over an off-Wiki (IRC) matter. I feel I am doing all possible to help this - but all I have had is a bunch of comments aimed at me and my actions, and not really over how the situation can be resolved. I am trying to me nice here - and from what I see you are throwing it back at me and attempting to start (another) dispute. Should you wish for a review over how I have handled this, please feel free to comment over at WP:RfC, as I feel this is hardly the place. Ian13/talk 19:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

And just so you know, I did not query you over it fully, because I feel there is never a time when personal attacks are acceptable. Ian13/talk 19:42, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Ian13! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. PS2pcGAMER (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. Stressbusters The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome! Note from the editor As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!

The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for offer of autoblock assistance

Hi Ian13 Thanks for your speedy response recently to problems ref autoblocking.The problem seems now to have vanished Solo999 02:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For tagging me under Those whom I consider friends --Quentin Smith 12:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem, it's the people I offend because they are not on there that may be the issue. ;) Ian13/talk 13:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

 ! --Quentin Smith 14:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Justice Newsletter

Community Justice Newsletter

Welcome Previously, various notices regarding Community Justice have gone out to our members; though this is the first actual newsletter. This issue will contain information regarding decisions made on the first meeting, our new council, and more...! If you wish to unsubscribe to future newsletters, please add your name to Wikipedia:Community Justice/Do Not Spam. New Council Following our first elections, a new council has been elected.Computerjoe and Ian13 remain as chairman and chief executive (respectively); while Eddieh, Wiki alf and Xchrisblackx are replaced as councillors by Ilyanep, Osbus and Covington. The Giant Puffin and Pureblade remain as councillors. Member Conduct In the last meeting, the conduct of 4 members was discussed. Ethnopunk will be put on probation, supervised by Ian13, if he/she is incivil during this probation, he/she will be expelled from WP:CJ; the same was decided for Misza13 (voluntarily), and his probation will be supervised by Computerjoe. No action will be taken against Computerjoe. Barnstar The Civility Barnstar which our members have designed has been sent to Barnstar and award proposals. We'd appreciate your feedback! Also, we are planning to make a Community Justice barnstar to give to hard-working CJ members. If you're a budding designer, consider trying to make it, then post your proposal to WT:CJ! Name and logo change There has been no consensus reached regarding changing our name and/or logo neither at WT:CJ nor at WT:CJ/M/1. While suggestions are still welcome, no action will be taken at this time. Programs We are going to try to create programs to more actively involve our members. If you have any ideas, please drop a line at WT:CJ. We will try to work with WP:ESP on one of these programs, at some point in the future. Thanks! Thank you for your time. If you need anything, feel free to comment at WT:CJ or come into our IRC channel [1]. Computerjoe wishes to extend his thanks to User:Robchurch, a non-member who assisted in making {{tracker}} redundant, as well as Misza13 for his continued support and to the whole of this and the previous council. This newsletter was delivered by CJBot, written by Computerjoe, with technical help from Misza13. Computerjoe's talk 19:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  !

Oh wow, I haven't seen them before! Thanks! Ian13/talk 17:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cicero

Hey man, how's it going? you know you and me we're cool we're hip. I dig you man. The thing is community justice would be better led by you man. You know it. You are practically running it already! We'll talk about this man. It's calm. Darryl James H. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cicero_Dog (talk • contribs)

Under no terms will I assume computerjoe's role, unless I was elected, and if I was brought in by force I would stand down. Ian13/talk 17:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1942

I see you voted in a 1942 mod AFD vote. Well you may be interested in the List of Battlefield 1942 mods AFD. Bfelite 02:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apology

I would like to apologise for my behaviour of late and assure you it will not happen again. Cicero Dog 18:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your apology, and I hope you suceed as a Wikipedian. :) Ian13/talk 18:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

[edit] Wolf Guevara

is it possible if user:wolf guevara be unblocked as the block is now approaching 6 days and Wolf feels he has more than learned his lesson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.47.91 (talk • contribs)

Responded on userpage (Denied. Was given indef block by 2 admins, and has been denied unblock by 2 admins). Ian13/talk 16:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

wolf will be unable to make any positive comments if he is blocked forever. i suggest unblocking him and keeping a close eye on him for a week to see if he deserves to remain. Then check that after a week he has done no wrong....and after that time we (the wikipedia community) can accept him and his return. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.253.131 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Ian 13

Hello, how are you? good, yes i am fine... i was wondering if you could ease up on the old anti-cicero dog thing....thanks....la la la la la.... Cicero Dog 15:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I am not trying to be anti-anything'. I am just trying to inform you that saying people are incivil (and using imagery - which could give an emotive responce), is generally not liked. As I said, could you please try and be abit more constructive when addressing issues. Ian13/talk 16:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

IAN! i have just been horifically attacked by a ne'er do well i believe he/she should be blocked for the unprovoked assault against me. User:07holsombd is the one! please help me defeat incivility! thank you my friend and comrade Cicero Dog 17:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Please provide some diffs, and consider using a more public board for such reports, such as WP:AIV. Ian13/talk 17:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

You're the only admin who hasn't got a court order out against me, man. I come to you because i like you. Cicero Dog 17:47, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay. The request for a diff still stands, I can't notice anything really bad from that contributor from my quick glance. Ian13/talk 17:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

apparantly he's been annoying [[User:RasputinAXP who is dealing with him. Thanks for your time Cicero Dog 17:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Shield Of Civility And The Sword Of Truth

Are these appropriate for use in the crusade against vandalsim, abuse and disruption or is the imagery to strong? Cicero Dog 15:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

In my view I would consider it a bit too strong. I think it is better to see it as reforming people, and keeping Wikipedia nice, rather than some sort of attack. Ian13/talk 15:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your userpage

Hi Ian, nice user page! I hope you don't mind if I stole your title style and your "click to show" codes. I'm currently using some of them on my current userpage, and will be doing the same with my new one. I'll be more than happy to give you credit. Thanks again. --Pilot|guy 23:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

You are more than welcome and credit is not nessary. Good luck, and thanks for letting me know! Ian13/talk 10:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Justice

You are a valid contributor to the Community Justice project, so I hope that you can comment on my recent proposals to the project. Thank you in advance. --☆TBC☆ 00:38, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your note

Thanks for your note. I appreciate the name change. "Community Justice" sounded too judicial. It sounded like it would entail Wiki-judges, Wiki-prosecutors, and Wiki-police. Concord sounds more like what you are after, in the sense of peace and harmony. Peace. :) Dlohcierekim

Yes, and thank you for your reply. Ian13/talk 14:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi!

Hey Ian I'm surprised that we've never had a proper acquaintance being that we both work for CJ and all(Guess we just don't edit in the same areas) ... Just dropped in to say hi and tell you I rv'ed that edit where I did take up all of your space lol. But I got to go and I hope we meet again someday. Mahogany

Hey. Yes, generally I am not on at this time of day, so I guess we just usually miss each other. No problem, and good luck! Ian13/talk 12:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Concordia.svg

Hey Ian, can I ask you re-release Image:Concordia.svg onto the Commons as a PD image? Computerjoe's talk 14:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Done! Interesting to see the effects of having an image in the title :) Ian13/talk 15:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)