Talk:Ian Watkins (Lostprophets)

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I removed some POV material, please don't revert back to it until you can supply some sources for the singers specific thoughts about music critics. Some of the stuff I removed was pretty unsalvagable POV. Please see WP:NPOV and WP:CITE for some guidelines that we use for inclusion of neutral material. And plese don't use personal attacks, you can see the policy at WP:NPA. Thanks, Rx StrangeLove 00:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Picture 2 Birth Year 3 4 A.M. and Always Always 4 Formality and tone 5 Kerslake or Carslick

[edit] Picture

I don't suppose anyone wants to add a picture. DavidJJJ 08:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I want to add one but I don't know how to add it yet. I tried a couple of times but failed. Anyone want to show me how to add one? Shrimpster 3:01 PM, 13 November 2006

[edit] Birth Year

In the "Behind the Scenes of A Town Called Hypocrisy" documentary (filmed in 2006!), Ian Watkins replies "27" in an age-related conversation. Which makes him born in 1979. So, unless there is a source for that 1977 thing, I think we should stick to 1979. Violethope 18:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I recently asked Ian what year he was born, And he said 1979.

Same goes for Guitarist Mike Lewis. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nattie x (talk • contribs) 16:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

The birth year is 1979, who keeps changing it back to 1977? Omightyben 10:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC) Ben

Also to be mentioned, should be the fact that in the Kerrang! 8 page special on lostprophets, it does say that Ian was born in 1977 and that Mike Lewis and him were in the same year. :)

User:simplykay, 30 May 2007

I got proof that Ian Watkins got born in 1979 her [1]

That is not a reliable source. Seraphim♥ ^Whipp 17:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The BBC Wales website says he was born on 1977-07-30.-- JediLofty ^{User ¦ Talk} 15:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 4 A.M. and Always Always

It hasn't said ANYWHERE that the songs were written about Fearne Cotton. It wasn't even stated anywhere officially that Ian or Fearne were dating. However, Ian did have a long and solid relationship with Marissa Festa (according to his first myspace in 2003). I'm pretty sure that they are more about her not of Fearne.

[edit] Formality and tone

The childish prattle that keeps being added to this article needs to be stopped. This is an encyclopedia, not a teenage blog page. TomGreen 11:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Whoever keeps changing the DOB to 1979 and adding info relating to Ian's private life (who he's supposedly "dating") based on rumour and speculation and what others put on their own internet pages, stop now. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.14.74.75 (talk) 22:23, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Telling people not to edit this page isn't very productive. Anyone can edit wikipedia. Granted, inserting information based on speculation and rumour is NOT appropriate for a biography. However, information from reliable media coverage IS acceptable, which is exactly what I have tried to do, using sources to back up any questionable information. Can the media report things wrongly? Of course they can, but the media coverage is what we have to go on. If Ian was address the controversial information directly then we would include that in this article.

The rumour about Ian dating Ivy Levan might be true or it might not be; it's not my place to have an opinion. Let's imagine he's not dating Ivy. Now let's imagine he's dating someone else called Apple (fictional person). Now imagine that his wikipedia entry says he's dating Ivy Levan and there's no reference for it and Apple reads that incorrect information. That's pretty hurtful...

What people have to remember when editing an article about a living person, is that all questionable and controversial edits need to be backed up by references to prove that the information is reliable and not original research.

Seraphim ^Whipp 23:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kerslake or Carslick

A variety of editors have switched his name between "Ian David Carslick Watkins" and "Ian David Kerslake Watkins". Can we find a reliable source that can decide this one way or the other? -- JediLofty ^{User ¦ Talk} 15:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)