Talk:Ian Paisley, Jr.

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Content is good, but article would need at least a few more reference citations, preferably at least one per section, for a B rating. John Carter (talk) 21:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Agree - also relies very heavily on audio broadcasts which are no longer available freely. Reference is correctly made to them, and Wikipedia says that's enough, but verification would be almost impossible unless some way was found to listen to them once more. If anyone knows of any resources offering streaming audio files for BBC Radio's "The House I Grew Up In", and which could be accessed, please post here, or provide links within the article. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 16:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jr/Jr.

Following British usage I think he should be called 'Ian Paisley, Jr', not 'Jr.', i.e. without a full point. In British English abbreviations formed by curtailing the word (there's a technical term but I can't remember it) do traditionally have a full point whereas contractions don't. The first category includes 'Hon.' and 'Rev.' and the second 'Dr' and 'Revd'. 'Jr' is obviously 'J[unio]r' just like 'R[everen]d' so the full point is not wanted. If he were American then the full point would be appropriate as the Americans do, as I understand it, write 'Mr.', 'Dr.', etc. In more trendy British usage (which also looks more elegant) full points are being dropped altogether ('PhD' rather than 'Ph.D.', 'Rt Hon' rather than 'Rt Hon.')--Oxonian2006 (talk) 17:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

There's also "Jnr" and "Junior", both of which are used on his website. "Ian Paisley, Jnr is also the spelling used on his profile on the DUP website. Perhaps we should go with that? Timrollpickering (talk) 14:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

My Hart (39th edn) lists 'Jun.' I would rather follow OUP than the DUP or even Ian Paisley, fils, himself. I suppose there is no established pattern in British English as it is not so much a British thing to do. There are also pages for William Henry Perkin, Jr. and Charles Dickens, Jr. I don't know whether his personal preference should carry any weight. It's not like the spelling, pronunciation, or hyphenation of a name. It's a matter of correct typographical rendition according to the national norm. It is, of course, not very important.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)