Talk:Ian Meckiff

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Good article Ian Meckiff has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
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[edit] GA on hold

  • No image? :(
  • No. He debuted after 1955 when PD-Australia came in.
  • "accused him of throwing Australia to victory." - is this a quote...?
  • No it's a summary of the critics all saying that he used an illegal technique.
  • All three paragraphs of the lead talk about his bowling technique. Doesn't seem right...
  • Unfortunately for him, he wasn't known for being a great cricketer but is most known for being the subject of controversy and possible witch-hunt. There are cricket results details in there but most of the study about him regard his bowling action.
  • "when he bowled Goddard" - jargon?
  • "after he had reached a century" - again (wikilinks should fix it)
  • "In 1960, the throwing law was changed so that it stipulated that there was to be no straightening in the arm at the instant of delivery. - ref?
  • done. Moved from end of para.
  • "Meckiff was not called in the 1960–61 Australian season, but his performances were ineffective as injuries restricted him" - how could he perform if he wasn't called in?
  • I linked earlier in the article that "called" means the umpire called "no ball".
  • "South Africa batted first.[8]" - do you need to cite that?
  • Well mistake, it was Australia batting first, which is why he didn't bowl until day 2
  • A few redlinks...
  • I don't know anything about these newspapers and since they seem to be non-trivial stuff that passes WP:N it should be left in there.
  • "Meckiff to be legitimate, then[32]" - what are you actually reffing here?
  • Is there any more info about his non-Cricket life other than AFL and advertising?
  • Any more internet sources?

Leave a note on my talk page when done. Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 06:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second opinion

DHMO has asked me for a seconds opinion. I concur with his assessment in general, but have some points of my own to add if he does not mind.

  • "Meckiff started his cricket career played for South Melbourne in Victorian Premier Cricket" - Is this an anachronism; I think this name has only been in place the last 5-10 years. The link is fine but should perhaps be piped to "Melbourne District Cricket"
  • His first first-class season. Were his stats in that first season compelling his selection at national level? One season before being sent on a tour sounds like a rapid rise. Maybe a sentence with how many wickets and an average in that first season would add soem context.
  • Need to explain what "call" means in the context of throwing. The context does not make this entirely clear to the non-cricket fan
  • Would you consider a reorganisation of the headings? This would not be essential, but I personally would combine from "Peak and eruption of chucking row" to "1962–63: No balled in the Sheffield Shield" into one Level 2 section and convert the existing headings to level 3.
  • I don't think WP:MOS recommends using {{cquote}} in articles?
  • "as the 1961-62 Australian season was purely domestic" may need more detailed explanation, i.e. no international teams.
  • Ian McDonald points to a disambiguation page
  • "...but refused to test the decision of Egar's partner" This sounds a little POV. Perhaps "declined" or "chose not" would be better, as they have a slightly different sense than "refused".
  • "Hoy said that in those Test a Shield matches..." I assume this is a typo but I am not sure what the correct version is.

Once again, a very good piece of work and deserving of GA listing. Well done. -- Mattinbgn\talk 02:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Done these apart from headers. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm happy with the above. -- Mattinbgn\talk 03:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Family

I not sure if this is of any use with Meckiff's life outside cricket - [1]. -- Mattinbgn\talk 01:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)