Talk:Ian Meckiff
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[edit] GA on hold
- No image? :(
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- No. He debuted after 1955 when PD-Australia came in.
- "accused him of throwing Australia to victory." - is this a quote...?
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- No it's a summary of the critics all saying that he used an illegal technique.
- All three paragraphs of the lead talk about his bowling technique. Doesn't seem right...
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- Unfortunately for him, he wasn't known for being a great cricketer but is most known for being the subject of controversy and possible witch-hunt. There are cricket results details in there but most of the study about him regard his bowling action.
- "when he bowled Goddard" - jargon?
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- Done. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- "after he had reached a century" - again (wikilinks should fix it)
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- done. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- "In 1960, the throwing law was changed so that it stipulated that there was to be no straightening in the arm at the instant of delivery. - ref?
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- done. Moved from end of para.
- "Meckiff was
notcalled in the 1960–61 Australian season, but his performances were ineffective as injuries restricted him" - how could he perform if he wasn't called in?
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- I linked earlier in the article that "called" means the umpire called "no ball".
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- Sorry 'bout that - see also Matt's comments here. Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 03:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- "South Africa batted first.[8]" - do you need to cite that?
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- Well mistake, it was Australia batting first, which is why he didn't bowl until day 2
- A few redlinks...
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- I don't know anything about these newspapers and since they seem to be non-trivial stuff that passes WP:N it should be left in there.
- "Meckiff to be legitimate, then[32]" - what are you actually reffing here?
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- Fixed. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Is there any more info about his non-Cricket life other than AFL and advertising?
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- Adeed a bit. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Any more internet sources?
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- Added a bit. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Leave a note on my talk page when done. Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 06:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Second opinion
DHMO has asked me for a seconds opinion. I concur with his assessment in general, but have some points of my own to add if he does not mind.
- "Meckiff started his cricket career played for South Melbourne in Victorian Premier Cricket" - Is this an anachronism; I think this name has only been in place the last 5-10 years. The link is fine but should perhaps be piped to "Melbourne District Cricket"
- His first first-class season. Were his stats in that first season compelling his selection at national level? One season before being sent on a tour sounds like a rapid rise. Maybe a sentence with how many wickets and an average in that first season would add soem context.
- Need to explain what "call" means in the context of throwing. The context does not make this entirely clear to the non-cricket fan
- Would you consider a reorganisation of the headings? This would not be essential, but I personally would combine from "Peak and eruption of chucking row" to "1962–63: No balled in the Sheffield Shield" into one Level 2 section and convert the existing headings to level 3.
- I don't think WP:MOS recommends using {{cquote}} in articles?
- "as the 1961-62 Australian season was purely domestic" may need more detailed explanation, i.e. no international teams.
- Ian McDonald points to a disambiguation page
- "...but refused to test the decision of Egar's partner" This sounds a little POV. Perhaps "declined" or "chose not" would be better, as they have a slightly different sense than "refused".
- "Hoy said that in those Test a Shield matches..." I assume this is a typo but I am not sure what the correct version is.
Once again, a very good piece of work and deserving of GA listing. Well done. -- Mattinbgn\talk 02:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Done these apart from headers. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Family
I not sure if this is of any use with Meckiff's life outside cricket - [1]. -- Mattinbgn\talk 01:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
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