Talk:Ian Gillan
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It's a minor-ish point but Ian isn't and never was a heavy metal vocalist, rather he's a rock vocalist (possibly even a heavy rock one). Of this fact I am certain. I did change this but it got changed back. I thought I'd mention it here as tit for tat editing is pointless.
Among musicians, the distinction between hard rock and heavy metal is not a minor one. Hard rock still shows its origin in blues while in contrast heavy metal has no such origins. Though some of Ian Gillan's music is touched by folk and jazz, by and large, his music, whether in Deep Purple or in his own band, "Gillan," is indeed unmistakably hard rock.
Jeff Mincey (talk) 21:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- On the other hand, in the seventies (Deep Purple's heyday) there was no distinction between hard rock and heavy metal. Bands like Deep Purple, Blue Oyster Cult, and even The Who were classified as heavy metal. The distinction really was made around the time Metallica and Bon Jovi were on the rise, since it was clear the same genre couldn't have both of them. Hondo77 (talk) 23:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Uh... WHAT?! You must be joking. Bon Jovi, metal? Dude, what have you been smoking? He was glam, at best. And, you're saying that the Who were no different from Black Sabbath? A reviewer called Sabbath heavy metal as early as 1973. The Who is just rock n roll. 68.211.207.6 (talk) 19:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Read what I wrote again. Does anybody consider Deep Purple heavy metal today? I doubt it--they're more hard rock by today's standards but they were definitely metal back in the day. Were you around back then? As for Bon Jovi, again, back then they were considered heavy metal by the mainstream. We're talking the mid-eighties here, remember. Slippery When Wet came out just a few months before Reign in Blood. Things were different twenty and thirty years ago. Does that mean The Who are the same as Black Sabbath? No more than Metallica being the same as Dimmu Borgir, yet they're both metal. Hondo77 (talk) 22:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Cleanup
added the tag simply as a reminder to myself to come back and fix this one up a little, add a little more detail and find some citations(right now there's only 1). Anger22 13:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Band Members
In para 5, the article states: "Tony Iomi, Jeff Healey, Joe Satriani, as well as Jon Lord, Roger Glover, Ian Paice, Don Airey and Steve Morse (all of whom are either current or former members of Deep Purple) are featured on this CD and DVD". I don't think that Tony Iomi or Jeff Healey were ever in Deep Purple. Their respective Wikipedia pages makes no mention. Nor are they listed on the Deep Purple page. 84.130.103.231 13:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- It is a badly worded sentence, agreed - it is referring to those artists mentioned after the phrase "...as well as..." Well spotted, and I will alter the article to more accurately inform the reader. Devious Viper 09:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vocal range
I think he has lost most of his vocal range. Watch this
Rather irrelevant, and no, he hasn't. He can still get down to E2, and he's gone as high as A5 in recent times. At most he's lost a quarter of an octave on the upper end.
Judging from studio records his range is something like D2-B5. The D2 is from No more cane on the brazos, the B5 is from Fighting Man. On his site he claims that he had reached the soprano C(C6) on a good night - it isn't so hard to believe since it's only a semitone higher that the recorded B5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.120.240.251 (talk) 23:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Opinionated
Who exactly considers Ian Gillan to be one of the 'foremost' rock vocalists. Also, where is the evidence of him introducing the vocal belting technique to music? It's also an opinion that he was able to move from one range to another 'effortlessly' with 'fluid' movement.
I have had a section describing his stage mannerisms and other activities, in which I have referred to a concert I was at, and many live DVDs, which are commercially available - deleted twice.
Consistency is required from whoever keeps editing this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TomGreen (talk) 15:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Blue Dragon
Should a note that Ian did the track Eternity for Blue Dragon on the XBOX 360 be added to the discography? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.36.208.93 (talk) 07:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Personal Life - home
Pretty sure Ian still keeps a home in Devon/Dorset border he did a few years back (http://archive.thisisdorset.net/2004/5/28/66650.html) and I read in a recent interview how he wouldn't be back home in Devon until May 2007 - anyone have newer info? --C Hawke 10:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Top range
"In his prime he possessed a very wide vocal range, extending from the E2 to the G above soprano high C, or C6."
I'd like to know what songs and/or performances these come from, because as far as I can tell, he's only gone as far up as the B bellow C6 in falsetto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sherick (talk • contribs) 20:51, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Range
His lowest note is a D2 in No more cane in the Brazoos as far as I know, his highes on any official record is a B5, the last two screams of fighting man or some live performaces of strange kind of woman, if anybody hears something higher, please comment before writing some something like a G6 which he never got close to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.17.178.201 (talk) 22:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright issues
It was claimed in an earlier edit today that this was copied from http://www.netglimse.com/celebs/pages/ian_gillan/index.shtml/ someone else reverted it (rightly imho). I just had a look at the very 1st 2 sentences and you can clearly se a natural evolution in the entry here regarding his time with Black Sabbath. Initially saying 2 years, then "and for his two-year stint in Black Sabbath" then finally in 2007 the "During his career Gillan had a year-long stint" which is common on both entries. The one here, to my mind, shows a clear evolution and tweaking. --C Hawke (talk) 12:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
