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[edit] Rewrite

I was surprised to see such a paucity of information in this article. I have paraphrased some biographical detail from the official Ian Dury website www.iandury.co.uk. --195.172.170.130 14:10, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blockheads' "solo" album

How can the Blockheads have released a solo album, when a solo album is an album released by an individual sans his band? Binabik80 03:27, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

It is a curious idea - but the Blockheads released an album sans their individual - namely Ian Dury...(Amended but unsigned at 10:59, 12 December 2006 by User:BNutzer)
Agreed - it's an album without Dury, not a solo album - article now changed. DavidFarmbrough 15:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Captain Beefheart's Magic Band also had an apparently successful reunion without Beefheart (who was still alive at the time, but uninterested in music). -Ashley Pomeroy 20:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Winkle

It's a trivial thing, but the article quotes a line from the song "This is What We Find", which goes "so he sanded off his winkle with his Black & Decker drill". The first time I heard the song I thought he sang "winkie", which is also British slang for cock; and listening to the song now, he seems to sing "winkwie". I know that the lyrics as quoted in the article are splashed all over the internet, but that's just mass copy-and-paste. Does someone have an official Ian Dury songbook sitting in front of them, to confirm the lyric? -Ashley Pomeroy 20:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] POV

Bob Dylan was a cult songwriter in 1987? The Bob Dylan article never mentions this.

151.200.214.162 18:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC)K. Bloomer


[edit] SCATOLOGICAL

Ian's humour is described in the article as "scatological". That means it is concerned with feces. Might I suggest "vivid and earthy" as a more suitable description? Emmenjay 13:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures and Winkles

Winkle is the correct word, there is to my knowledge no official Ian Dury lyric site BUT the lyrics are printed in the back of Ian Dury & The Blockheads: Song By Song which is an official autobiography. I obvioulsy can't prove this outright cos I'm not scanning the book and breaking it but you can purchase it and see for yourself if you're so inclined.

The lack of picture here - I can rectify this easily as one of my copies of Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll: The Life of Ian Dury (yes I have more than one...I know) is broken and all the laminated pages with the photos have fallen out, if somone will please tell me what copyright thingee to put (if they are usable) I will gladly scan a bunch and upload 'em, there's a particularly good one of Dury late in life with his kids (the youngest kids).

Also the Kilburns era section really needs to be expanded, I am happy to do this some time in the near future, just wondered if it would be better to have a seperate page for them, after all there's seperate pages for Mick Jones, The Clash and Big Audio Dynamite right?

[edit] Full name

So was his middle name Robin (text) or Robbins (box)? The latter (his parents naming him after Harold R.) seems too good to be true. Rothorpe 18:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Place of Birth

As stated in the main article, Ian was born in Harrow Weald, Harrow, not Upminster. Why does the details box put Harrow, Middlesex in small type, but still list Upminster as "Origin" whereas, he never actually lived there?

The links at the bottom of the page include "People from Upminster" and that page links back to Ian Dury, wheras the Harrow Weald page does not mention Ian.

Arjayay 15:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BBC Ban

Wasn't "Sex & Drugs ..." banned by the BBC in the 80s because at the time it was felt inapropriate that a singer with a disability sing about sex? -- Tarquin

No - "Fucking Ada" and "Spasticus Autisticus" were both banned, tho' -- User:GWO

[edit] sex & drugs & rock & roll

the rock and roll anthem "Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll" — a phrase which has subsequently entered the language.

The phrase was already well established when the song came out.

Elaboration: I have never seen the song credited as introducing the phrase to the language. I do remember when it came out one of the punk fanzines gave it a sneering review on the lines that "anyone could write a song with this title and it would be a hit". I was in my teens at the time, and the phrase was commonplace in the UK -- that is why the song has the title. 217.41.60.242 08:27, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I can say with some assurance but no citable sources that the s&d&r&r phrase came from BP Fallon, who was Ian's publicist at the time. And, to contradict the writer above, it was the song that introduced the phrase into popular use. BP, of course, was Led Zep's best man thoughout the early 70s - I wouldn't be surprised if its original inspiration lay in that area. Wwwhatsup (talk) 02:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mick or Mickey?

I have started a discussion at Talk:Mick Gallagher on the proper naming of this article. Any contributions would be welcome. --John (talk) 15:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)