Talk:Ian Chappell

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Contents 1 Nickname 2 "Ian and Greg Chappell stands" 3 Dweller's comments 4 N-picking

[edit] Nickname

"Chappelli" has been overlooked? It isn't mentioned anywhere.--Jeff79 07:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Adding it to the lead Twenty Years 11:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Ian and Greg Chappell stands"

What's the deal with the Stand name? The SACA website [1] doesn't even mention it, and other websearches [2] seem to mainly refer to it simply as the "Chappell Stand". Is there an official name? —Moondyne 09:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

This query should probably be at Talk:Adelaide Oval, but it really needs to be resolved here also. —Moondyne 09:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Having done some more research, it appears that the Chappell Stands (ie plural) are, confusingly, two stands named after three brothers. They were built in front of the Vic Richardson Gates, named after their grandfather. Amended for this article & at Adelaide Oval article.

Phanto282 00:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dweller's comments

• Rivalry with Greg worth mentioning in Lead?
• Hesitant start worth dropping from Lead?
• Unbeaten as Aussie captain needs severe gloss - as an uninformed reader will think the chart of captaincy stats contradicts this

More to follow, probably. --Dweller 16:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• I considered a section on comparing the brothers (which could be mentioned in the lead) but decided against it because it is a biography of Ian Chappell...
• I tried to relate the various section headings back to the lead, you will notice a section titled "hesitant start". I think it is relevant for a number of reasons, primarily that they wanted him as a batting all-rounder whereas he wanted to bat at #3.
• I have removed this phrase because it is more elegant than using qualifiers such as WSC, the 7th Test in 1970-71, etc.

Phanto282 00:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] N-picking

• Against the touring West Indies, Chappell hit 177, 188 not out, 117, 180 and 165 before the New Year.

He did not score a 177 but had a 123.

Two minor inaccuracies, which you may ignore by invoking the "editor's licence" - In 1963–64, Chappell batted at number three for the first time, in a match against Queensland at - he had done so in the Lancashire match but the line can be interpreted to mean that it is talking only about the 63/4 season; At this point, the selectors and captain Bob Simpson considered him an all-rounder as he batted at number seven and bowled 26 (eight-ball) overs for the match - in the Test and in the previous seven fc matches dating back to more than a year, he had batted at no.3. Tintin 02:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Very good! Not giving you anymore easy ones from now on... :)

• Amended scores to the correct sequence. My source on that was originally RS Whitington who I have subsequently found to be a little unreliable
• Amended to 1st inns for SA as #3
• Final point: During the mid-60s, Australia tried to turn a number of players such as Chappell, Stackpole & Cowper into batting all-rounders to compensate for a weak bowling attack that relied too much on McKenzie. Simpson was the role model for this. Don't really have a good source for this & anyway, I thought it was a bit too miscellaneous to include. It's an interesting point in that Simpson also told him to give up the hook, so you can see their philosophical differences go way back. Chappell's place in the batting order is important as he always saw himself as an attacking #3 in the Australian tradition.

Phanto282 04:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)