Talk:Ian Bell

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What ever anyone says i bloody lov ian bell he's my complete cricketing idol i get da mikey taken out of me because of it but i always keep faith and it will show the people that laughed at me. Jack Ashton.

yeah, i'd hardly call getting a shoddy decision and being the second highest scorer in the second innings a failure. some explanation of what he actually failed at might be useful?

Um...I'm not quite sure what you refer to, but the word "failure" appears twice in the text. First "in the first two matches", where he scored about 40 runs in four innings from memory, and the second despite failing against Australia. This failing is explained in the paragraph above However, he only scored six runs in four innings in the fourth and fifth Tests, leaving him with a batting average for the series of only 17.10, by far the lowest of the English batsmen. Sam Vimes 22:10, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

but he didnt fail at edgbaston.

[edit] Sherminator

This bit about Bell being called "The Sherminator" bothers me. I'm not sure it's relevant, and also I don't think it's a nickname, I think it's just derogatory name calling. I don't wish to keep reverting it, but it keeps being put back in. Besides, he doesn't even look that much like him. KingStrato 19:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

To my mind it certainly shouldn't stand without a very good cite. Even if Warne does in fact call him that I would still have reservations as to it being encyclopedic. --LiamE 01:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I've removed it - we shouldn't document every sledge or rude insults ever said - else, Wikipedia turns into a tabloid toilet. Or else we could list every Shane Warne affair for instance, or in India, where cricketers enjoy many "fringe benefits" from super-stardom and are repeatedly linked to glamourous Bollywood actresses etc. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:07, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

It could be argued that it provides a well rounded perspective on the subject (Bell). This exchange is something that has taken place whilst he is doing what he is known for - batting in a game of cricket. I think your argument comparing it to Warne's OFF field activities or Indian OFF field activities is a bit weak. It took place on the cricket field and it could be argued that the exchanges had an impact on the game (and series), just like a particular spell of bowling or passage of an innings. It wasn't like Warne SMS'd it to him after hours. Dave 06:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how it is a well-rounded perspective at all. It is simply an insult used by an opponent. We could note that Cullinan claimed that Warne is fat, what use it that? or that many users have used offensive insults against opponents - I feel that this is useless and is not his nickname. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

It is hardly offensive or an insult - but whatever - if you can't see that, then that is your problem. Have it your way.Dave 23:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Surely the point of an article about a cricketer is to concentrate on his playing achievements for the benefit of the readers and not to indulge infantile name-calling incidents. As for "well rounded perspective", I think it is a sense of perspective that is called for. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 00:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Charity patron?

I was wondering whether anyone knows whether what i have to say is true or merely a hoax. Basically, i remember reading the wikipedia article about Belly a while back and it mentioned that he was a patron for a charity for men who only have one testicle, as Bell too only had one testicle. It has since disappeared, so i presume it may have been someone havin a cheap laugh, but if anyone has certain information then it would be very useful. User:Trigg travers 22:24, 22 March 2008 GMT