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1 List of I Love Lucy Actors
2 Flubs
3 Film vs. video
4 "Lost" Christmas show
5 The Ricardos' address
6 Vegemite?
7 IMDB entries
8 Merged information from Lucille Ball
9 Notes on a theme
10 Misquotation
11 Cousin Ernie
12 The F-Bomb
13 List of notable episodes
14 Running Time?
15 Desi Arnaz's Emmy nod
16 DVD Opening Credits
17 My Favorite Husband
18 Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy3.jpg
19 Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy 7 8 9.jpg
20 Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy 6.jpg
21 Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy 5.jpg
22 Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy 4.jpg
23 Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy 3.jpg
24 Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy 2.jpg
25 See also section
26 First Sitcom to Feature an Interracial Couple
27 Casting
28 Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series
29 Cultural Reference section deleted

[edit] List of I Love Lucy Actors

I would like to have a more comprehensible list started of actors who appeared on the show. It looks like a "partial" list was started here. Lucy & Desi had a lot of friends in Hollywood who appeared on the show quite a bit over the years. Some were famous, but more importantly (at least to me) is the fact that "character actors" and "bit players" are on so often, I feel like I know them from my living room. I would like to see them get more recognition. Writers were also very important to Lucy & Desi. If one reads or has heard anyone ever ask them about the success of the shows, they always responded by giving credit to the writers: Bob & Madelyn, Jess, and the 2 Bobs. What do you think? --Davidw0998 12:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I know a woman whose kid was in a lot of early sitcoms, and she told me that once when there were a lot of kids on the set of I Love Lucy, Lucy showed a strong aversion to them, refering to them with bad names. Anyone else know what Lucy thought about kids? 69.108.67.193 23:15, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flubs

I have seen many of the "I Love Lucy" episodes on DVD and on the DVDs there is a list of flubs, or bloopers. I think that putting a list of the flubs in the article would be a wonderful edition to the article, especially because the show was recorded live without retakes. If anyone disagrees or wants to help put up a list, please let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.158.127 (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Film vs. video

The duo along with co-creator Jess Oppenheimer then decided to shoot the show on 35 mm film in front of a live studio audience, with three cameras (this technical innovation is now standard for sitcoms). -- Don't they use tape today? RickK 20:37, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

For soap operas at least, but those aren't sitcoms. Anyway, the medium by which the images are fixed is not as important as the technique (of course the fact that the medium is a much higher quality than kinescope prints is also important). -- mav 05:37, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Remember when it was! In '50s, nobody used film; all the old sitcoms went out live. Lucy's idea (or so I heard it) meant syndication--& we still got 'em... Trekphiler 07:01, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

The OP asked "Don't they use tape today?" This depends on the show and when it was produced. Most American network dramas in 2007 (like CSI) are shot on film with a single camera and edited, similar to a feature film, while some network comedies (like Two and a Half Men) are shot on film with multiple cameras in front of a live audience, just like I Love Lucy was. As Maveric149 said above, daytime dramas or "soap operas" (such as the Young and the Restless) are shot on video tape, as are reality shows (like Survivor), some comedies, most news magazines (like 60 Minutes) and other entertainment programs like The Insider. Local and national news is broadcast live, with stories played back from video tape or video servers. In the 70s and 80s, many network sitcoms (like All In The Family) were shot on video tape. Thomprod (talk) 00:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Lost" Christmas show

Can somebody explain what is that about a "lost" Christmas Show? It is not clear in the main article. Fredyrod sept 16, 2006. — 201.227.50.22 00:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

In one or two episodes there was a Christmas tag scene, but after it became only reruns I'm pretty sure it was never seen again except on the DVD boxed sets.

[edit] The Ricardos' address

I wonder who really lives at apartment 3D on 623 East 68th Street. CrossEyed7 16:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

(Grins) I don't believe that address actually exists... at the time of the show anyway, it was a non-existent part of the street.--Dirgni1986 17:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

623 E. 68th Street would be in the East River, then and now. The highest addresses on E. 68th St. are in the 500s. — Walloon 20:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

That is what I've always been told as well.--Dirgni1986 20:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

You're wrong. Aquaman lives there. ;) Trekphiler 11:54, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vegemite?

Why on earth is there a "see Vegemite" link in the bit about Vitameatavegamin? What do they have to do with each other, except for an incidental similarity in pronunciation? Joyous 05:31, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

Vegemite is equally disgusting, but whatever. Steveo2

Very little in common, the joke is an old one, about alcohol, disguised as a tonic, very common in Vaudeville days. 17:39, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] IMDB entries

There are more possibilities at IMDb but I thought 3 was enough for now. If there's another from that list which is particularly significant, feel free to add it. HTH HAND --Phil | Talk 14:54, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merged information from Lucille Ball

No idea why it was there, but it was. Moved it over here. --Woohookitty 15:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Notes on a theme

I understand Eliot Daniel wrote it, which I didn't see credited, nor what it was called. Trekphiler 07:01, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Misquotation

What is the source for the famous "Lucy! You got some 'splainin' to do." quote being fake?-Remy Green

A better question would be, what is the source for it being true? Can anyone name an episode where the line is used, and quote it in context? — Walloon 20:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

We're not making the statement that the quote is true in the article, we're saying it's false. We need proof for what we say, not for what we don't say. I think it should be taken down.- Remy Green, July 4th 2006

We're entering a house of mirrors here. What is "the quote" that you say is false? Ricky saying "Lucy! You got some 'splainin' to do," or the article's claim that he never said it? — Walloon 01:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't say a quote is false. I said that if we're going to make a claim either way, we need proof (especially if we're going against the prevailing opinion). The statement that it's a misquotation should taken down.Jeremy Green 19:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I do remember the quote "Lucy, you have some 'splaining to do" being mentioned in an episode, can't remember the episode though. Although I can see why people would think it isn't true be cause it is more commonly said differently, such as "come on baby let me 'splain!" or "if you don't start 'splainin right now..."

[edit] Cousin Ernie

I would put "the" outside the quotation marks of The "Cousin Ernie" story arc. — Walloon 20:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The F-Bomb

The f word is a pretty offensive word to a lot of people. I know this is a pretty touchy subject on Wikipedia. Its not very classy, degrades the quality of the encyclopedia. I think it should be removed or at least replaced with f***. Epachamo 04:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree, there are many child users on Wikipedia and also just people the find the word offensive.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.199.21 (talk • contribs)

[edit] List of notable episodes

Hope no one minds, but I added "LA At Last" to the list of notable episodes, as that one contained the scene where Lucy sets her nose on fire. I know that there are a lot of memorable episodes, but since the Season 4 DVD Box features her disguise on the cover, I thought it warranted a mention. And I admit, it's one of my personal favorites as well. MccullarsJ 18:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Running Time?

Does anyone know if the running time of I Love Lucy was really originally 30 minutes? I had thought it was 26. 128.138.122.225 01:30, 30 July 2006 (UTC)AP

The figure of 30 minutes is including commercials. The actual length of the show's content is difficult to gauge with a lot of older shows because there were less commercials (they were "simpler times" when we didn't have entire channels devoted to fashion and golf and reality television didn't even exist!) so most showings are edited for time, but 26min sounds about right for the original footage. Moulder 02:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I have the dvd boxed set and it doesn't show commercials (duh) and the running time for each episode I've watched is 26min & about 30 sec.

[edit] Desi Arnaz's Emmy nod

Or lack thereof. What a goddam shame. I was utterly shocked as a life-long fan of the show to discover that today. He never got one! Emmys therefore measure nothing, but you already knew that. -Bordello 04:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD Opening Credits

Do the DVDs feature the original opening credits or do they have the syndication credits?

No, the DVDs show the "Heart on Satin" credits, and the originals were the cartoons. However, in the "bonus" section, the do show the original openings, just not attached to the episodes.

Yes, but the cartoons ARE on the DVDs, but not the credits. The cartoons come in what what would have been a commercial break.

[edit] My Favorite Husband

As a lot of the episodes are loosely based on My Favorite Husband, should there at least be a nod to the radio show for spawning I Love Lucy?Eragon fan 20:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Lucy3.jpg

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[edit] See also section

Has there been a "see also" section for this article? I had to really search for List of I Love Lucy episodes and there might be more articles related to this one that would qualify for the See Also section. --64.5.88.54 22:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Mak1457's got some 'splainin' to do. This infrequent editor made wholesale deletions, including the Episodes section which I've restored. It had the link you were looking for. (Actually, I agree with most of the deletions.) Clarityfiend 22:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Sitcom to Feature an Interracial Couple

I was surprised that this was metioned nowhere with in the article. Would anyone like to back this up? 69.250.130.215 00:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I can remember hearing from my parents that there had been quite a bit of fuss about that fact back in the 50s. There were a number of jurisdictions where the two of them would not have been allowed to marry. David Cheater 18:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Would totally belong in the article, especially if it can be sourced. Probably under a controversy section, but not criticisms. It would be hateful to consider it a criticism of the show Engloword (talk) 06:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

First Anglo-Latino couple, at least, per Lovece, Frank, Newsday, "From Cuba with love on 'Lucy'", November 11, 2007 --Tenebrae (talk) 06:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you give me a cite for a law that considered Latinos to be of a different race? — Walloon (talk) 01:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The U.S. Census, in 1970. Not a law, but a federal designation. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

First off, they were not Inter-racial, they were inter-cultural. Desi Arnaz is a White Cuban of Spanish decent. Back in the 50s and 60s Hispanics were seen as Ethnic whites like Jews and Italians. Today, because of the introduction of the labels; latino/hispanic do we think of Desi as a seperate race, when in fact Latino and Hispanic are not racial labels, they are cultural ethnic labels. That is why there is no mention of them being an inter-racial couple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.254.207.18 (talk) 21:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually looked up this article to see if someone would be stupid enough to drop the "interracial" bomb. Please explain to me how two people of entirely European descent could ever possibly, by any stretch of the imagination, be considered interracial? Wormwoodpoppies (talk) 18:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Casting

The article stated that both Bea Benaderet and Barbara Pepper were originally to play Ethel. Unless she was twins, that's a contradiction. Benaderet's article says the same, while Pepper's doesn't, so I worded it that way. Anybody know for sure? Clarityfiend (talk) 21:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series

I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 16:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural Reference section deleted

I deleted the Cultural References section because trivia is discouraged on Wikipedia. Beside the point, I know I Love Lucy has influenced more than a song by Weird Al and a minor gag in a cartoon. There could be a Cultural Impact section for this article because it had impact but cultural references are just a waste of time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hygmod (talk • contribs) 18:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)