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( 8 June 2006 - 12 June 2007 )

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[edit] Grey Owl

Hiya Your bot just made some changes to a URL on the Grey Owl article's external links section. Thing is, the page that it's changed the link to doesn't exist. Shurely shome mishtake? Vizjim 09:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Looks like it was a dead link before the bot edit [1]. I'll try and find the replacement or remove it from the article. -- I already forgot  talk  09:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please vote for whether Gun Nut deserves deletion or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gun_Nut --BillyTFried 23:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Persistence of Memory Image

This image appears on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use, but is copyrighted. Therefore, it should only appear on articles related to the subject of the image. Could you please remove it from your user page to prevent a copyright violation? Thanks. Ian¹³/t 09:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michelle K

My big problem with that section is always that it appears to support one point of view and I think it is blown out of proportion. Yes, that is what caused her to come to national attention, but reading through the various sources it appears that many bloggers jumped on it and that is what resulted in most of the notoriety of the incident and the more established media to report on it. I put the sentence in, but think the paragraph could be re-written with a better structure. Shsilver 17:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abrasive Flow Machining

This article is a stub right now, and you list extrude honing as something you've done. Feel like expanding the article? I'd be interested in learning more about the process; I've always been a tinkerer, and I think extrude honing would be an interesting process to apply to cheap airguns for performance improvement. (assuming of course the process lends itself to some DIY hacks) scot 19:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any refs to back up my edits to the article but if I can dig some up I will add what I know. Without any refs and just for discussion on my talk page to help guide you in the right direction to find credible refs... The extrude hone type abrasive flow machining uses an upper and lower cylinder actuated by hydraulic pistons. You charge (shove media in by hand) the bottom cylinder with the media made of a putty type substance that contains abrasive material like silicon carbide. You then put the part to be honed in a fixture (I used delrin [if I remember correctly] because of the ability to resist wear) and then lower the top cylinder down onto the fixture. You then adjust the hydraulic pressure from a couple hundred PSI to the upper limit of the machine (1000 psi plus). The amount of pressure set with the hydraulic regulator determines the amount of material removed and heat generated with each pass. You can either have the media flow from the bottom cylinder through the part, into the top cylinder, and then back down trough the part into the bottom cylinder to perform multiple cycles -or- you can have the media flow from the bottom cylinder through the part and then onto the work table with the upper cylinder never receiving a charge and only a half cycle completed. Many of the small medical devices I made and then polished with extrude hone used a bottom plate with small diameter channels to direct the media flow through the part onto the table. This allowed me to hold onto small parts without the need to hold the part in the middle of the cylinder and without putting too much pressure on the part as the needed clearance was added to the fixture to reduce clamping pressure. It's a pretty simple process but because of the high pressures used, can be dangerous (if not life threating) if done without the proper equipment or done with home made devices. --I already forgot 20:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Everyday Journeyman

I don't know how to ask you a question, if this is the correct function, but someone (you) continues to delete my edits. I have a website listed as a citation and a forthcoming book/documentary project that will further back up the edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loyalfromlondon (talk • contribs) Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 00:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ronnotel's RfA

I indented your struck oppose since it was showing up as a double !vote. — [ aldebaer⁠ ] 06:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks for fixing it. --I already forgot 06:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Undo issue

Hi, I noticed you deleted my external link in PHP, WizzyWeb. Whereas all the other companies in the article have external links, your edit seems bias. Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.153.216 (talk) 21:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean about me being biased. Read up on how|when external links should be added to an article and you might better understand why external links to unrelated pages should not be included in the article.--I already forgot 01:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
What I mean by bias is that again, every company mentioned in the PHP article has a link - why shouldn't WizzyWeb? I did read the external link page before and after adding the link. WizzyWeb is a PHP code generator, similar to how every other company mentioned in their given space is. Please explain your position if you disagree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.153.216 (talk) 10:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
"every company mentioned in the PHP article has a link" The links point to articles or websites that are directly related to the php scripting language.
  1. php.net: is the official site for PHP
  2. zend.com: is a link to Zeev Suraski and Andi Gutmans site. They are the co-founders of PHP.
  3. pear.php.net: is the main extension and application repository for PHP
  4. The dmoz link is often provided as a compromise to cut down on excessive unrelated links added to the article. I personally think it should be removed but wikipedians have accepted it as a compromise so it gets used often.
  5. oracle.com: Is a link to an article by php creator Rasmus Lerdorf.
Pretty cut and dry. Also, adding a link to a company you are affiliated with or adding the link to promote the site is covered at WP:EL. I suggest you read it in its entirety and take up the issue on the articles talk page. Thanks. --I already forgot 02:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I also noticed that you removed links that I had put into several sections regarding legacy language transformation. We provide information to people interested in those legacy languages on their options for modernization. This is not spam. I also note that you left three external links on the LINC page - why are they deemed by you to be more relevant than ours? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveMQuipoz (talk • contribs) 05:32, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

This is also covered at WP:EL.--I already forgot 02:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flags

Hi. I saw your posts at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Firearms and User talk:Akradecki regarding flag icons and their use in Wikipedia. Just as you refer in the topic above to Wikipedia:External links to help the anonymous editor understand why posting external links can be problematic, I refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags) as guidance for the use of flag icons. Now we both know that guidelines are just guidelines, that there are exceptions to rules, and so on. WP:EL does not say there should be no external links in Wikipedia, it gives guidance on which ones should usually be (or not be) included. WP:MOSFLAG is similar; it does not prohibit the use of flags, instead it gives advice about ways they should and shouldn't be used. The clause I am mainly talking about here is "Flag and other icons are commonly misused as decoration. Adding a country's flag next to its name does not provide additional encyclopedic information in a general context, and is often simply distracting (example). Wikipedia generally strongly eschews the use of images for decorative purposes, preferring those that provide additional essential information or needed illustration." There has (so far) been consensus that the use of flag icons in sporting articles is more defensible, because a sportsperson (or in the case you identified, a national sporting team) has verifiably identified as playing "under" a particular flag. Similarly, the use of flag icons in data tables can save space and this use is not problematic either.

Now, without wishing to comment here on another user's behaviour, I would also add that these (to me) fairly minor style issues pale into utter insignificance besides issues like civility. No less a person than User:Jimbo Wales has recently stated that "I am running out of patience for incivility at Wikipedia ... note that all editors should always endeavor to treat each other with kindness, or else find another hobby... We should be gentle, but firm: this kind of behavior is not allowed at Wikipedia."[2]

I do hope I have managed to clarify your doubts about this issue. Best wishes, --John 19:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I think everyone got a little worked up over the issue but I'm sure you guys/gals will make the best decision so I'll step back for a while and let everyone work this one out. Thanks again for the reply. --I already forgot 19:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
And that is exactly the kind of well thought-out, reasoned approach that I was trying to suggest Asams10 make. It's that kind of thought and discussion addressed to the guidelines involved that actually build consensus and help craft the guidelines themselves. Thank you! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Being that none of us get paid for what we do, I can understand how easy it is to get worked up over simple issues when we think or know that what we are doing is the right thing. I'm sure Asams10 is just trying to do the right thing but has a few bad days now and then... I know I do. My opinion is we get hit with so much vandalism and spam, that we need to hold onto the editors doing good work keeping up the facts and/or standards of the articles even if they are difficult to work with. I'm sure you know better than anyone that with so many personalities it's never going to be easy. --I already forgot 16:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Never going to be easy? There are so many trolls out these days that it is rarely good, which is why I try to make a point and thank folks like you as above.

[edit] Blocked

Because of this garbage. Don't know if you've lost the plot or if this account is compromised... in any event, such comments will not be tolerated, and you shall remain blocked until you can provide a good explanation. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 07:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I think you have a pretty name as well. I was hoping we could watch Deliverance and have a beer. the_undertow talk 07:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Pretty funny that I'm blocked for trolling when I ask perfectly legitimate question (even if it was hard to type) to see how the potential admin would respond to an image and an article that exist here on wikipedia. Did the admin that block me notice that user Thespian had issues on a pornography related article? What about the fact that I've been accused of censorship in the past for asking that the image be removed from an article for being of a different style from the other images (which jimbo agreed with me on)? Maybe I was unsure how the potential admin would handle such issues? Not even a note from the blocking admin as to why I posted the questions after 4000 plus legit edits. My block make it obvious that most admins are not ready for the realities that exist on wikipedia and need more experience in handling issues that deal with censorship, vandalism, trolling? By the way I dont drink.--I already forgot 07:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Did you think that by complimenting the female user on her wiki-name would make her more responsive to the question about fist fucking? I'm thinking a fraternity may be in your future. the_undertow talk 08:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Huh? Do you think I know the person? There are no genders, age groups, races... just wikipedians. We all have to deal with the same issues together. If she/he is not ready to handle the "dark side" of wikipedia, the person may not be ready for adminship. Also, keep the BS fraternity, pointed remarks to bait other editors into useless banter as you are wasting both of our time with it. Strike that, feel free to jabber jaw away cause I guess I'm done here.--I already forgot 08:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
If that was your intent, then ask that question like that, not in the manner you did, which is undeniably inappropriate. FYI, AN/I thread here. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but I disagree. Everyone seems to prance around the RFA page petting each other and handing out warm fuzzies as if they are trying to get votes themeselves. I want to flush out the quirks, attitudes, and see how the user handle unusual situations. I used totally legit articles (Fisting) and images from articles (List of sex positions) and ask how they would help. If I give up the plan right out of the gate, what would be the point?--I already forgot 08:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
So this RfA is a mere vessel to flush out those who may or may not be able to handle certain content? I think that previous edits are indicative of a potential admins conduct, but if you want to conduct trial by fire, why not do it elsewhere? the_undertow talk 08:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Do yourself a favor. Go to thespian's RFA talk page that has the edit count. Look under "Mainspace" or "Talk" and go down 11 or 10 rows respectively and copy "Pornography addiction". Now paste it into the search box and click search. Now that you are on the article page, scan over the users edits. You will see that a bit of controversy or edit dispute was going on there. I did not know for sure the position the person took on the issue so I posted my questions. I was hoping the person did not take a stand at all and could explain the complexity of dealing with different social groups. --I already forgot 08:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I see. Belongs on the talk page of the article. At best, an oppose vote based on your experiences. At worse, I'm assuming you knew the user was a female, so the 'pretty' name followed by questions about fist fuck seemed bad at RfA. Yes, you did use legitimate articles. That is agreed. But just because you found articles that exist on wikipedia does not mean they are appropriate for direct inclusion in an RfA discussion. It's about the tools, not fist fucking. There is no single circumstance where your comments would have been merited, regardless of the subject. the_undertow talk 09:00, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I have to admit that the statement "Will you help me with that too" was intended to say "Will you help me with that article too". I read it again, and without the article added in the sentence, it sounds a bit... well lets just say I apologized for that. My intention was to throw the user off to make the editor think the account may be hijacked or that I may be intentionally confusing the editor, but I can see how missing a few key words can be an issue. On a side note... Hopefully people will recognize that something needs to be done to clean up wikipedia without being a censor but also allowing all ages, religions, and cultures to read through the article pages without cringing, having to post warning signs, or look over their childs shoulder. For the record, I see no reason to have the image I posted included in an article or any reason to add "fist fucking" to the title of a sex related page, however I have accepted it through consensus. Hopefully some day that same consensus will find a place between the anti and pro censors so that tact and education is used for such articles and the slang terms and the ultra graphic images find their way out of these article pages. I'm not trying to get my account back and do not wish to have it, just being honest during my departure. Again, good luck to everyone and thanks to user EL_C for unknowingly giving me the RFA idea (during the TonyTheTiger RFA[3] ) to flush out the quirks and see how the user performs under less pleasant or obscure situations.--I already forgot 10:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good bye my friends

Too the ones that know...KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT! --I already forgot 08:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unblocking...

I'm willing to unblock you if you show an understanding about why the comment was inappropriate and a promise to refrain from such comments in the future. You've been here for a long time and done a lot of hard work to improve this wiki. I would hate for your participation here to end like this. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 22:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer but I think I'll pass. If asking a users opinion during an RFA about articles and images that anyone can read or view here on wikipedia is trolling, then I should promptly be shown the door out of here. Since I've been black balled, I've decided to take the money usually donate to wikipedia to buy a box to store a personal mirror of the last good version of wikipedia (lots of essjay stuff and civility will be paramount!). The cleaning up of that version (mostly bot work, woo hoo!) should keep me busy for many years. When the time comes when admins can understand exactly what happened and why permanently blocking users as punishment is wrong, then feel free to unblock my account. Otherwise, thanks again for the offer and thank you wikipedia (esp jimbo who sticks with it even after having his own articles speedied and being scorned by scores of disgruntled wikipedians) for all the hard work. Over and out. --Anon user FNA I already forgot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.6.208.243 (talk) 17:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure you're going to drop out? I've just reviewed your contribs, and, despite that one blip, it seems like you were a great editor. Wikipedia needs users like you. --Ye Olde Luke 05:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Good luck with that then. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 18:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Mortgage loan closer

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