Talk:I Am Curious (Yellow)

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This is not a "pornographic film"; don't take my word, the U.S. Supreme Court also ruled that it was not pornographic (see the article). Can we remove that stub label? — Walloon 00:59, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

The Supreme Court does not get to pass on truth. 72.144.198.53 06:55, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 The style of Bergman?? 2 And the movie is about? 3 Merge 4 Screenshot 5 court decisions 6 Two fixes to make

[edit] The style of Bergman??

I've seen a lot of Bergman, and I have a hard time imagining how I Am Curious shares any stylistic elements with his work. Perhaps some of the themes are comparable: identity, jealousy, emotional breakdown. But I Am Curious is very much a new wave film. Bergman's style is not new wave at all. His films are sometimes poetic, minimalist, surreal, but not new wave. The prominent stylistic elements of I Am Curious are film within a film, jump cuts, and footage of non-actors on the street(in the interviews). Bergman does not do any of these things in his films. It would be more accurate to compare this film to the work of Truffaut or (early) Godard. However, it is possible for Sjöman to be influenced by Bergman without his films taking on Bergman's style, in the way that Godard was influenced by Hawkes, Ford, and Hitchcock.

[edit] And the movie is about?

Any chance we could actually talk about movie and what it is about instead of the history about it? — 198.62.72.2 08:33, 2 February 2007) (UTC)

The film doesn't really have a plot. It's a commentary on the socialist caste system in Sweden. It's about two hours long, which is time better served taking a nap.

While plot should not replace a discussion of an influential movie's place in history, this article certainly is lacking either a plot synopsis or, if the movie could not be said to have a plot as such (as the second commenter implies), some description of the content beyond one or two individual scenes. Lawikitejana 06:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

If nobody objects, I'm gonna merge this and I Am Curious (Blue) into one article at the disambiguation page (I Am Curious). I think they would be better covered in one article instead of two. I've started it in my sandbox and I'm having some format issues, but I'm trying to work those out -- as well as expand it a bit. --Dookama 23:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I kind of object... I don't mind an article that covers them both instead of a disambig page, but, just how we work with infoboxes and all it is better to have two pages. Kind of like how there is a Star Wars page and then pages for each individual film... even though this is only two... gren グレン 12:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I just looked into your sandbox... I think you should add {{main|I Am Curious (Yellow)}} to each of the sections.... and not have an infobox.... gren グレン 12:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. If you have any other suggestions, feel free to leave 'em here or on my talk page or, uh . . . wherever. :P --Dookama 17:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshot

It's not that I have a great problem with the image... but, I'd like to see some source citing that it's one of the most important scenes... We tend to have needless obscenity... and I'd rather have it well sourced that it is the most important screenshot to have. gren グレン 12:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I put it in and I'm new around here and unfamiliar with the citing and all that. --Dookama 17:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] court decisions

I changed the sentence about the court battles because as far as I can see the US Supreme Court decision in Byrne v. Karalexis, 401 U.S. 216 (1970) didn't overturn the state anti-obscenity law that regulated motion pictures; it seems to be a purely procedural decision.

I did a whole lot of searching, but unfortunately I couldn't find the decisions of the district court and the court of appeals online. In addition to the sources I cited in the article ([1] and [2]), here are some links in case someone wants to pursue this further and provide more detail:

• A web page from which it seems that the "decision in 1969, reached by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York" was the relevant one
• A book review of the book about the film that says it contains "an extensive transcript for the US District obscenity trial that the film had incited"

Three texts summarizing parts of the district court decision:

• [3] (p. 913, footnote 2)
• [4] (p. 1205, which says that the district court ruled that the Massachusetts statue "might be unconstitutional when applied" under certain conditions)
• [5] (p. 461, which says that the district court assumed the film to be obscene, but held that since there is a constitutional right to view obscene films, it must also be allowed to show them)

A TIME article from Oct. 5, 1970 says: "The film I Am Curious (Yellow) will be reviewed again by the [Supreme] court. Last term the Justices adjourned without deciding whether or not the First Amendment forbids prosecution for showing an allegedly obscene film to an adult audience forewarned of the film's explicit sex scenes."

A film review gives the name of the case as "A motion picture named I Am Curious – Yellow versus the United States Government" (which appears nowhere else) and claims that "the Supreme Court decreed that it was ‘not utterly without redeeming social value’" (which appears nowhere in the US Supreme Court's Byrne v. Karalexis decisions).

Some other important US Supreme Court decisions on obscenity:

• Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957)
• Memoirs v. Massachusetts, 383 U.S. 413 (1966)
• Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15 (1973)
• United States v. 12 200-Ft. Reels of Film, 413 U.S. 123 (1973)

Some texts that seem to have copied some or all of the previous wording of the Wikipedia article:

• a paper on Catherine Breillat
• a blog entry
• a web page of the Office for Contemporary Art Norway
• an ebay movie listing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joriki (talk • contribs) 14:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two fixes to make

I improved the text describing the newly-added image for the Guldbagge Award. (1) Olof Palme's participation is mentioned by IMDb here; please link in this reference properly if you can. It doesn't mention a dual role, my interpretation of "bi roll" in the original image's text. (2) Lena Nyman won the Guldbagge Award for best actress. This should be in the box summary, so add that if you can. Thanks! --72.70.24.236 (talk) 01:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)