Talk:I. M. Pei

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Pour moi qui suis Français, je trouve scandaleux de classe monsieur Pei Dans le catégorie chinois- américain, pourriez- vous être un jour un peu moins raciste et le classe Dans la catégorie "architecte"?

For me, a Frenchman, I find it scandalous to classify Mr Pei in the category "Chinese-American". Would you please, one day, be a bit less racist, and classify him in the "architect" category?

Mr. Pei was born in China but is now a citizen of the United States. He is therefore a Chinese American. M. Pei est né en Chine, mais est maintenant un citoyen Des Etats-Unis. Donc, il est un chinois-Américain. ---drew1718 11:23, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I think his point is the liberté égalité fraternité of France thing that ignores national origin in the spirit of brotherhood. Je crois Que sa Remarque parle de idéal de liberté égalité et fraternité de la France, qui ignore Les origines nationale de gens Dans l'esprit fraternel.--Muchosucko 14:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Didn't Pei design some buildings for Columbia University? These were then rejected. Not exactly something major, but perhaps worth noting. Mat334 21:44, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It's interesting to note the discrepancy between the English and Chinese versions. The English version says that "his work has had little influence on architectural theory," whereas the Chinese version states the opposite.

Doesn't two pictures of the same building seem unnecessary? Septentrionalis 20:03, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

I have a time-lapse video of the construction of the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center. Would that be appropriate for the gallery section? I would link to it rather than posting the video here. cville roger 00:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC) I received no comment/discussion about the above proposal, so I added it today. cville roger 01:10, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Project List

The project list appears to list all buildings that Pei, Cobb, Freed, & Partners designed not buildings on which Pei was the lead designer. I think a distinction needs to be made. This information is available at http://www.pcf-p.com/a/i/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.124.162 (talk) 20:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Born in Guangzhou or Suzhou?

Many other websites say that I.M. Pei was born in Guangzhou (formerly known as Canton), Guangdong Province---rather than Suzhou, Jiangsu Province---in 1917, and spent his childhood in Hong Kong, and then moved to Shanghai in 1927. --Roland 00:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glass - Who's the funny guy?

What's the deal with putting a picture of a (drinking) glass instead of of the Bank of China Tower? I'll change it for a real one although I'm not too familiar with how the copyrights work here in wikipedia.

[edit] Name

This page shouldn't have been renamed. He is universally known as I. M. Pei, and Wikipedia policy is to use common names. - SimonP 19:25, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A picture

There should totally be a picture of I.M. Pei in this article.

I agree. After all, this article is about a man... not a building. 24.206.232.82 00:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modernism?

The pyramid of the Lourve seems decidedly postmodern to me, although there is no question that Mr Pei is primarily a modernist. Pelegius 14:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

We can think of it this way: the pyramid itself is a modernist building, but the situation it creates along with the classical buildings around is post-modernist.

[edit] Further on place of birth

According to my copy of Michael Cannell's biography of IM Pei, he was born in Guangzhou, Guangdong province; (Canton). Can whoever put in the Yunnan place supply citations please? --Sumple (Talk) 22:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC) Mr Pei can still speak fluent Cantonese, so my guess is he was born in Canton. I remembered him on Hong Kong TV after the completion of the Bank of China tower.

Replacement of the flag is not meant to be controversial. In 1917, the flag used by the Republic of China on Taiwan was the flag used by the mainland. Even the People's Republic of China does not dispute that this flag was used at the time.VK35 19:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Technically no, Taiwan then forming part of the Japanese Empire. China was divided, and ROC partisans used several different flags, but Guangzhou would have flown that one, yes.Dawud (talk) 00:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
The People's Republic of China didn't exist when he was born. I find it odd that we say her was born in the PRC, why not just say China, not controversial and still true! Arthurian Legend (talk) 04:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plagerism??

A few weeks ago, I read that wikipedia articles plagerize copyrighted articles much more often than any reasonable editor would like.

I just found an instance where several paragraph are plagerized. See the article for internationally acclaimed architect, I. M. Pei.

This is our (wikipedia article): before moving to the United States to study architecture at the age of 18. He started at the University of Pennsylvania before going on to receive his Bachelor of Architecture degree from Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1940. That same year, he was awarded the Alpha Rho Chi Medal, the MIT Traveling Fellowship, and the AIA Gold Medal. He enrolled at the Harvard Graduate School of Design two years later; shortly thereafter, he served at the National Defense Research Committee in Princeton, New Jersey.

In 1944 he returned to Harvard, received his master degree in Architecture in 1946 and stayed at Harvard as an assistant professor. He received the Wheelwright Traveling Fellowship in 1951 and became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1954.

This is http://www.netglimse.com/celebs/pages/i_m_pei/index.shtml which says this at the bottom: Copyright © 2001-2004 NetGlimse.com. Privacy PolicyAll Rights Reserved.

before moving to the United States to study architecture at the age of 18. He started at the University of Pennsylvania before going on to receive his Bachelor of Architecture degree from Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1940. That same year, he was awarded the Alpha Rho Chi Medal, the MIT Travelling Fellowship, and the AIA Gold Medal. He enrolled at the Harvard Graduate School of Design two years later; shortly thereafter, he served at the National Defense Research Committee in Princeton, New Jersey. In 1944 he returned to Harvard, received his master degree in Architecture in 1946 and stayed at Harvard as an assistant professor. He received the Wheelwright Traveling Fellowship in 1951 and became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1954.

Aside from the list of his projects, this plagerized part is over half of the article.

It is interesting to note that the above source has wrong information which was copied to the wikipedia article. I have corrected it. The original name of I. M. Pei's firm was I. M. Pei and Associates and was changed to ....and Partners several years later.

The question posed is what should editors do about plagerized materials? I believe the correct action is deletion, even though it may seem painful. I will rewrite it.

(I have made a note of the above in WP:AN) VK35 21:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality

I corrected the "nationality" field in the infobox in this article to note that Pei is American, not Chinese. When Pei became a US Citizen in the 1950s, that act made him automatically lose Chinese nationality according to current Chinese law. That law dates from 1980, so his nationality status prior to 1980 is unclear. Merenta (talk) 21:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awards and Prizes

There should be more than just AIA Gold medal. He won the Pritzker Architecture prize and several others which I can't remember.