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Somebody had said the design was by Pininfarina which is incorrect. It is an in-house Hyundai design. However many people have noticed a similarity betweek the 2003/2005 Coupe to Pininfarina's work on the Ferrari 456. (Spectrumz80 13:17, 19 October 2005 (UTC))

Given that many people continue to add links to informal and less encyclopedic Hyundai Tiburon/Coupe sites (fan sites, forums, modifying information etc), I propose that these should be put in a seperate links section call "Forums, Modifications & Miscellaneous Links" or something named equivalent. I believe that many of these sites still provide a lot of useful and extremely detailed reference information and therefore are valuable to those interested. G. 20:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

While I agree that the coupe has similarities with the Ferrari 456, someone has added the following statement, "It has also a very similar look of the Ferrari 360 Modena and its successor the F430 but without the engine in the back." This sounds like rubbish to me, does anyone else agree? Tomcork 20:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


Yes Tomcork, I agree with you - I've never seen that written or mentioned anywhere whereas the Ferrari 456 reference has been mentioned in a number of notable motor press articles [1][2], therefore I propose it is removed as Wikipedia isn't the place for original thought G. 00:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Pictures of the new 2008 concept?

Anyone know where to find more(and larger) pictures of the new concept model? -Mike Payne 05:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 new V6 engine?

Can someone please cite the reference link for the new Sonanta derrived engine? I am not seeing any official information on the engine change. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by College Watch (talk • contribs) 03:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] too much data

are listing all the options on there now really necessary?RCHM 01:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 Model

The way the article is talking about the 2008 model makes it seem like it hasent been released yet, and it has been, so I think someone needs to update that section with current information and re-word it. 71.98.156.88 01:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

  • There doesn't seem to be much data out there on the new models in reality, the majority is scattered across the web, really leaving no credible source to derive from. --Jkharris07 16:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Why is it the "2008" model if it is already on sale (in fact one drove past me today) - it seems a bit misleading as those "not in the know", ie those who this article is written for, will then think the model was launched in 2008 not 2007. There seems to be a similar issue with the "2003" model, which was available from early 2002. Halsteadk 19:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sport compact?

This is not a sport compact by the definition given in that article. Would it be better to just say compact? Friday (talk) 03:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Apparently people think sport compact is the right designation. I still don't see it, any more than (say) a Honda Civic is a sport compact. I suppose one could argue that the optional-engine-equipped cars qualify, but that doesn't mean the Tiburon as a model is a sport compact. Friday (talk) 21:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, yahoo autos calls it a "family coupe" or "sports coupe". Friday (talk) 21:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Third generation section

I have reorganised this a bit as it wasn't previously logical because "branding", "performance" and "engineering" were previously all within that section, but related to all generations. I left the equipment section within third generation as that is probably only specific to the 3rd gen. Within "engineering" and "performance", I also turned some bold headings into proper section headings - I think some of these performance figures are not now from the original referenced sources, as some look a little optimistic. I note that the 1.6 is currently missing from both sections for the 2002- models. Performance and engineering could be split back into the specific generations. Halsteadk (talk) 11:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fourth generation

I am doubting the validity of calling the last incarnation of the tiburon the "fourth generation". I am of the opinion that this is another facelift for the car in preparation for the new platform to come out in 2009/10. There have already been concepts shown at numerous show and I think that model would embody what is really the fourth generation of the car.

The newest model is infact just a facelift. It retains the same engine, platform and specifcations as the previous model. The main changes are to the cosmetics of the car and some interior tweaks. This is similar to the facelift that was given to the third generation at the end of 2004/start of 2005 although they are more severe and greater in number.

I'll leave this here for discussion for a week and if nobody objects i'm going to change it. Furthermore I went through and added the year dates for the generations in the headings of the sections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.95.147 (talk) 20:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

By the same token, it's questionable whether the "second generation" is anything more than a cosmetic facelift of the first one. I'd suggest that there have been two "generations", the first had a major facelift, the second has had a minor and a major facelift. Halsteadk (talk) 21:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
If it is considered the 4th gen in your opinion do you think we should create an info box fox this specific model? Sorry, i just created an account so the previous post was by me. Barring that getting some references that refer to the second generation as a seperate generation would help.--Polmerfox (talk) 21:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree with halstead, if your going to call the GK1 GK2 and GK3 all one generation you need to call the RD1 and RD2 tibs all one generation, in fact, if you look on NewTiburon.com, they have an email from a Hyundai rep indicating there are, in fact, two generations of tibs, 1st gen is RD, second is GK. I'll link to the thread/email when I have more time. (Alex01tib (talk) 05:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC))
I agree Alex, If Hyundai say it is two generations then that's what it is. The only other option is five generations - I can't see that four is correct at all. I would put in the intro brief words saying there have been two generations and reference the message, then change the structure of the rest of the article to suit. Just one thought, is the word "generation" a universally recognised term? In the UK we would use "Mark" but I'm not sure if that's internationally recognised. Halsteadk (talk) 13:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I think the move to a two generational break-up of the cars is the most factual option (RD and GK). As for calling it a "generation" I think it is just a matter of semantics, its not going to greatly affect the clarity of the article. What needs to be properly expressed is that there are two main incarnations of the car. In material that I've seen written about cars the more commonly used term is generation.
Is it too soon to put information about the upcoming platform into the article? A car has been shown at recent motor shows and information about its make-up and specifications have been released.Polmerfox (talk) 22:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Are you referring to this concept: [3]. I have heard elsewhere that this is not going to replace the Coupe. Halsteadk (talk) 11:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Once again halstead is right, the Genesis Coupe is a production bound concept car that is a completely new car. The Genesis Coupe is going be RWD and have a I4 turbo and 300hp V6, the new generation Tib will remain FWD but gain some "major performance and cosmetic changes" my guess is Theta turbo, just like the genesis coupe, but FWD. Krafick talks about the new tib at the debut of the genesis coupe, he wanted to clear up the misconception that the genesis coupe was the new Tib. Heres the wiki page Hyundai Genesis Coupe Alex01tib (talk) 00:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Made the change to the format of the article and changing it to a two generation model as we discussed. Any comments?Polmerfox (talk) 10:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me, just made some fixes in the "Media" section. It is far clearer now what have been major and minor changes to the car of this name. Thanks. Halsteadk (talk) 15:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Plagiarism

I'd like to point out the user with the IP 65.32.205.43 has completely plagiarized a news article by Consumer Guide.

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2010-hyundai-tiburon.htm

I don't know if it's the simple copy and pasting that is ignorant, or the purely speculative data the Consumver Guide review full of non-facts that was taken as fact. Ether way, nothing is concrete, the car isn't in production, a specs box full of 'TBA's' is useless, and the article itself doesn't say much.--24.222.156.92 (talk) 01:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)