Talk:Hypostasis
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Nixdorf, That doesn't look like an upsilon to me. Unless there is something wrong with the font I have.
- There is something wrong with the font you have :-)
- The first letter is an accentuated upsilon named U+1F51 (GREEK SMALL LETTER UPSILON WITH DASIA) as found in the apropriate unicode table (Greek Extended: http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F00.pdf). Several web browsers/operating systems have problems with the Extended Greek characters however. Nixdorf 18:02, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
What the hell use is it using unicode characters that only work for some people, when you can use unicode characters that work for ALL people? The codes I put in happen to work for everybody, whereas yours apparently only work for you. Not to mention that it's easier to read the pnemonic codes than the numeric. You got your rough breathing, what more do you want? Just to be "right"?
- Now you're being rude. Plese stop it, I have done nothing that deserves that you resort to that kind of manners. Plese be polite and constructive.
- Unicode is a standard specified to be used in HTML version 4 and XHTML, and thus valid for use on Wikipedia. I work regularly with greek text and view pages using Mozilla and the accentuation works just fine. Web browsers / operating systems having problems with it are not complying to standards, i.e. they are broken.
- Of course we can avoid using that (correct) character if it is a large population having problem with it, but I have not seen any substantial evidence that this would be the case. Nixdorf 16:48, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Well it is rude when I fix a problem and you just reverse it out for no reason.
- OK I see your point. Anyway, please discuss incidents (whether from my shortcomings or not) first instead of resorting to harsh language, so that we understand each other and stay friends at all times.
Look, I checked your codes in Mozilla (latest version) as well as Internet explorer (latest version) on a standard installation of Windows XP, and it doesn't work on any of them.
- OK that's fine, we'll keep the characters this way until the flawed implementation on IE+Windows catch up. No problem, see. Nixdorf 11:28, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, this is not a problem with the implementation of Explorer, and probably also not with Mozilla. The question is one of the font that is in use. Both page versions work fine for me using IE 6.0.28 if I use the "Arial Unicode MS" font. If I use other fonts, it results in an empty box for the numeric code. See Unicode and HTML.
- -Rholton 01:52, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
On a completely different topic, hypostatsis is a singular noun, correct? Shouldn't we use the Latin singular persona instead of the plural personæ? (I would just fix this, but it's been way too long since I took Latin, and I'm not 100% sure persona is the singular.)
- -Rholton 02:01, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
This sentence is incorrect:
The etymologically corresponding Latin word is substantia, i.e. substance; however especially in the context of Christian theology it is usually translated into Latin as persona, i.e. person
greek->latin->english
hypostasis->substantia->hypostasis (hidden spiritual reality)
prosopa->persona->person (persona would be more correct)
Correction: substantia corresponds to the Greek ousios (substance)
I don't know how hypostasis was translated into Latin, it may have been taken directly as a technical word which it is, its meaning in Greek is vague and a subject of great debate.
