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[edit] Non Inverting?

I question the reference to the characteristic of a hypercoaster to be non inverting. Nowhere else have I heard the same description, especially in that there where be a labeling error for those that do invert (Sheikra, Moonsault Scramble, Son of Beast). This would land those coasters being concerned in a void rather than a specific height classification. (Hyde244 14:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC))

Just found something, the article is correction, per an encyclopedia. [1]. But it is a confusing subject, considering SheiKra's height classification would be considered a hyper coaster. But I think that the term hypercoaster has come to be known as a ride with those certain characteristics (since their manufacturers label them that way). Possibly a 2nd table should be created with coasters that meet the height requirement but do not fall under the two other requirements. I don't fully understand it myself, but thats the way I understand it to be. (Coasterman1234 17:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC))

-Honestly, nobody understands the height classifications fully, everyone just kind of makes it up as they go. :P

Anyways, I think your onto something coasterman with the optional table, of which we can include Sheikra, Griffon, SoB, etc. Just as well, we can also just mention that there are indeed coasters that do go above 200 ft. that also contain inversions.

Of course, the more that you think about it, it does indeed make sense that hypercoasters do not invert, as that would explain why Magnum was the first hyper coaster, even though Moonsault Scrambler was built previously above 200 ft. Genius.

Alright, I'll see what I can try to work in. - Hyde244 02:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Technically Son of Beast has just gained hypercoaster status with the removal of it's loop. I will try and work on a second table as well. (Coasterman1234 01:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC))

I started on the second table and reworded some things but it still needs work, those are all the hypercoasters (meeting height requirements) I could find, as of today (Coasterman1234 03:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Megacoaster

I can't see a hypercoaster being referred to anywhere as a "Megacoaster" since that term already refers to the wooden coasters in the Golden Age that topped 100 ft. It could be pretty confusing. Anyway if there's no reference for that I'm going to erase it. Gorman 05:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

"Megacoaster" is usually used as a reference to any coaster from 250 ft. to 299 ft., truly more of a term coined by Intamin for their Mega coasters (Superman: Ride of Steel, Expedition GeForce, etc.). B&M too has used the title of "Seed Coaster" for their earlier hyper coasters such as Apollo's Chariot and Silver Star.

It's best to play it safe and not confuse everyone and simply not mention the optional titles, as hyper has become rather universal nowadays. (Hyde244 14:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC))

B&M calls their version of hyper coasters "mega coasters", but some of these so called "mega coasters" do not reach 200 feet. So I'm not sure if it should be included in the article since it more so refers to B&M's style (the four across lap bar trains) of coaster.

[edit] failure to meet qualifications

By definition, a hypercoaster must either be at least 200 feet tall, or feature an initial drop of at least 200 feet. Phantom's Revenge fails on both accounts.

It is easily possible for a terrain coaster to have an initial drop of less than 200 feet and a second drop of more than 200 feet. Such a coaster would meet the qualification. Dusso Janladde 06:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)