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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Hutcher, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  --TeaDrinker 22:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] North american union

Howdy, I saw the content you added to the North american union article. A very similarly titled article was deleted (by Articles for deletion) a few days ago. Wikipedia does not permit the recreation of articles which were deleted, except by deletion review. I have tagged the article for deletion, if the article is subtantially similar to the deleted page. If you have any questions, feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page, User_talk:TeaDrinker. Thanks, --TeaDrinker 22:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Superhighways.jpg

Image Copyright problem

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[edit] I want to help

id like to help with the north american union article. it looks like a pretty weak consensus that the original article was deleted with. this is a commonly used term and needs an article of its own, but its going to be tricky. i think the advice on the talk page was good, it would be a good idea to replace the redirect for the time being and work out the kinks. if the article sticks, then there will be less red tape to cut through in order to get the article name with proper caps restored. --PopeFauveXXIII 09:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, you're saying put your redirect back, move the article to my userspace and then somehow apply for a Deletion Review? Wouldn't the current article need to stay in place with the deletion review tag? Hutcher 16:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
as it stands, the article will not withstand review and will most likely be deleted again. im suggesting that it be removed it for a few days to avoid compounding the controversy unecessarily and then replace it when the time comes to declare it a legitimate article. --PopeFauveXXIII 18:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
DO you still need help creating a page on your userspace? It's very simple to do. Just edit you main userpage, and place a link such as /NAU or /North American Union on the page, and save it. THen just clink on the link, and add your text. - BillCJ 18:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] some links

whats up, thought id throw you a couple of links in case you hadnt seen them yet. the first is a guy who is also trying to restore the article, i assume the version he's got archived is fairly close to the original. the second link is the initial deletion consensus, as you can see, its pretty flimsy and trigger happy. ill pop in tomorrow and work on it a little bit, too tired tonight. ttyl --PopeFauveXXIII 06:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wisepiglet/North_American_Union http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/North_American_Union

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Superhighways.jpg)

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[edit] North American Union

Please do not add actual article categories to unfinished sandbox pages such as your draft of User:Hutcher/North American Union. You can add the appropriate categories when it's ready to be moved into article space, but unfinished sandbox pages should not be appearing in article categories in the meantime. Thanks. Bearcat 05:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, this is an article he rescued from being deleted to have time to improve it. The categories were already there. I should have told him to disable them when I recommended he move the page toa sandbox. Also, you didn't have to delete the categories - simply putting a colon in front of each cat will do the same thing, and they'll be there when he's ready to move it back to the mainspace. - BillCJ 05:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Ccce logo.gif

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[edit] Carroll Reece

Thanks for creating the article, Carroll Reese. However, there already was an article about that person, B. Carroll Reece, so your article was redirected to the existing one. --Orlady (talk) 06:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] KAL 007 Request

Hutcher, very good edits to KAL 007! I have a request if you could do it. I noticed that there are two edits that have been posted that have requests for citations. I have the citations but am blocked. Would you post these citations for me? The first is in the time line of attack section: 18:26:08 GMT - Captain Chun yells, "Retard throttles." First Officer Son responds, "Engines normal, sir." Indicating that Maj. Osipovich's heat seeking missile did not destroy 1 of the 4 engines. Son will again report engines normal at 18:26:45[citation needed]

The citation is - http://aviation-safety.net/investigation/cvr/transcripts/cvr_ke007.php

The second is in the crash scene section: The 1991 Izvestia series of interviews with the civilian divers who had visited KAL 007 at the bottom starting 7 days from the shootdown reported in amazement that out of the 269 passengers and crew, they found no more than 10 small body parts and one partial torso.[citation needed]

The citation is - Izvestiya, May 28, 1991, p. 8.

For this second edit, there is need for a slight correction - it should read - ..."10 encouters with the remains of Boeing passengers and one partial torso."

(Here is the whole Izvestia quote from my article in http://www.rescue007.org/docs/TheGreatRussianRuse.pdf page 12

"Captain Mikhail Igorevich Girs: “From Captain Girs’ diary: ‘Submergence 10 October. Aircraft pieces, wing spars, pieces of aircraft skin, wiring, and clothing. But—no people. The impression is that all of this has been dragged here by a trawl rather than falling down from the sky…’”99

“So we were ready to encounter a virtual cemetery. But one submergence went by, then the second, and then the third... During the entire rather lengthy period of our work near Moneron,I and my people had maybe ten encounters with the remains of Boeing passengers. No more than that.”100)

Thanks!

Bert Schlossberg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.50.118 (talk) 23:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
THE Bert Schlossberg?! Excellent, nice to meet you ... I hope you check back and are able to read this. I've learned to be careful about using your site as a reference - there are many gatekeepers at work on Wikipedia. Thankfully, there is plenty of evidence in many other places. I'm fascinated (not in a positive way) by the possibility that Rep. McDonald has been imprisoned for the past 25 years. Are you being blocked because of your work on this article? Hutcher (talk) 01:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Pleased to meet you too, Hutcher. Yes, I'm blocked because of my work on the KAL 007 article. Re: Larry McDonald - I believe that he was alive through the mid 90's. He may still be alive. By the way, I see that you have done work on the wiki Larry McDonald article. On the conservapedia article on KAL 007 http://www.conservapedia.com/Korean_Airlines_Flight_007 , to which I have heavily contributed, I put a link to an article on Larry McDonald which as yet has nothing but the name. Here it is http://www.conservapedia.com/Larry_P._McDonald . I had hoped that people would contribute to it as there are many, according to the stats of my website, who come to KAL 007 interest through interest in Larry McDonald. Perhaps, you could do for Larry on conservapedia what you've don for him on wikipedia. Thanks much for the citation postings! -- Bert —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.50.118 (talk) 09:52, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

That's scary ... about McDonald and the blocking. I'm a fan of Alex Jones of http://www.prisonplanet.com and that's where I learned of McDonald's appearance on Crossfire just prior to his disappearance. I was amazed at what he revealed and found it too cute that he went missing just a couple months after bad-mouthing the Rockefellers on national TV. I'll take a peek at those other articles ... I unfortunately have alot of articles on the go ... my amateur research takes me in many different directions.
What is your opinion of the apparent Larry McDonald/Western Goals connection to George Patton/Reinhard Gehlen anti-Soviet intelligence networks? Hutcher (talk) 05:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been unblocked and am posting again! I've heard of the connection but know little about Patton/ Gehlen networks. Can you gst me reference? also the Alex Jones reference Crossfire interview? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.50.118 (talk) 10:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Rumours of a Patton/Gehlen/McDonald connection like this article: http://watch.pair.com/jbs-cnp.html. Prisonplanet basically only embedded a link to Google Video: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/140208_b_McDonald.htm Hutcher (talk) 04:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...went through them. Will think them over —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.50.118 (talk) 13:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

O.K., Hutcher. Have thought some. Very possible there was a real connection with the Gehlen network either by direct affiliation and belonging, by conspiracy - breathing together in close consort, or by collusion. The last would certainly be opperative. Wached McDonald on video with Buchanan and Bradly. They tried to pin him down to conspiracy - Bradly did, at least. McDonald did a good job but he could have developed the working of "collusion" to show how these things really work. I think you'll be interested in this - http://www.rescue007.org/faq.htm#8 89.138.50.118 (talk) 07:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

What's the end-game? I mean something funny is going on ... there were clearly survivors otherwise the Russians would have handed over the remains to calm tensions and then stand by their violation of airspace story. So now they have the survivors but why not do what the Chinese did with their US spy-plane shootdown - interrogate them and potentially barter them for money/concessions/whatever? I guess they didn't want to be seen holding a US congressman and didn't want him released so they sacrificed the entire group.
Where to from here, Bert? I don't see the Russians or Americans reopening this can of worms. It's sounds crazy and impossible but to bust this case open again we almost need a survivor or concrete proof of a survivor inside Russia. Hutcher (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Hutcher, I think it's probably better to continue our conversatrion about this direct through webmaster@rescue007.org Thanks for your good, good edits and your participation! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.50.118 (talk) 16:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Western Support of Saddam Hussein

I was reading your page: User:Hutcher/Western_Support_of_Saddam_Hussein and I thought you might be interested in this article: Saddam Hussein - United States relations . Imad marie (talk) 12:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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