User talk:Husond/Archive 3

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Thank you

My administratorship candidacy succeeded with a final tally of 81/0/1. I appreciate your support. Results are at Wikipedia:Recently_created_admins#Durova. Warmly, Durova 21:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my page. --Nlu (talk) 06:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

A review request

Hello. I know you're probably quite busy, but I've seen your name pop up several times on both Editor reviews and on active RfAs. You seem to have a fairly stringent series of requirements for both, which is exactly what I'm looking for. If you could spare some time, I'd love for your feedback on my Editor review (especially since I'd eventually like to submit an RfA. Thanks! EVula 21:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello EVula. In fact, I was already planning to collaborate with your editor's review either later tonight or tomorrow. I saw your funny comment yesterday following my baby remark on User talk:ChrisGriswold. I immediately recognized your username but could not recall from where. I firstly thought that it could be from a recent RfA, but only after spending some time searching for your non-existent RfA I realized that it was from the editors review page. So I decided that I should participate in your review anytime soon. I'll go have dinner now and I'll gladly provide you with some feedback when I return. :-) Best regards.--Húsönd 21:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Long overdue thanks

I have a natural tendency to rebuke injustice whenever possible, so I was certianly not going to stand idly by while you were being wrongly accused of incivility! By the way, how did you manage to grasp 6 languages so well? That's very impressive. -- WGee 02:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Well it's a very covetable gene, especially from the point of view of a student who aspires to speak French fluently someday. :^) And since you're taking math, would I be correct to presume that you're in secondary school like I am? -- WGee 02:31, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

edits to ESPN College Football Broadcast Teams

I removed the link to Jimmy Dykes on all of them because the Jimmy Dykes article states that he was a baseball player who died in 1976; therefore he cannot possibly be an announcer! The Jimmy Dykes who does sideline reporting for ESPN does not currently have an article. (153.104.80.121) 1:02 October 20, 2006 UTC

Portal:Iceland

Sure, I'd be glad to help out with the portal. I already made one fix to the main portal page (just fixing around location). It is a good start so far, and I'll try to help out with the red links. Nishkid64 00:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar, Husond. =) Nishkid64 17:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Well for my computer monitor (and in my web browser, Firefox), the selected picture is too big for the particular space it is confined in. I suggest resizing the image because it seems it would make it a better fit on the portal page that way. I'll change it from 300 to 250px, and see what happens. Tell me what also happens on your computer. Nishkid64 17:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
It's still a bit too big, but I guess it doesn't really matter now. Nishkid64 18:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias

Hey Húsönd, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Coffee lounge

I feel so terrible about what I wrote... Let me emphesize the fact that it was NOT meant to be a personal attack on anybody. I was complaining about smoking in general, not people who smoke. I've got nothing against you for smoking, believe me! The fact does nothing to lessen my admiration for you. Again, I am so sorry.

A chocolate-drizzled pancake to show no hard feelings?— Editor at Large(speak) 18:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, you don't have to apologize! :-) I didn't regard your comment as even slightly offensive or unpleasant. So don't worry. Thanks anyway for contacting me, it shows that you have good character. Best regards.--Húsönd 19:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Sweet!

My first barnstar (or something like that) Thanks! - Mike | Talk 22:55, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

BTW, would you mind leaving a comment on mine? Thanks! Mike | Talk 23:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
This one would be fine, thanks :-). I'm trying to recruit a few people before it closes, at which point I'll either open a new one or simply copy this one to a user sub-page. - Mike | Talk 23:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Editor review

Thanks very much for your comments.

  • I do RC Patrol occasionally. In fact I had the userbox until I simplified my userpage.
  • I would like to install VandalProof, but unfortunately it doesn't work on Mac :-(.
  • I will certainly try to improve my AfD participation. I'm rather new to it, as I really never had an interest before ;-). I'll try to pull myself together and use the right terminology when commenting as well.
The Original Barnstar
Thanks a lot for your participation in my editor review! I'll do my best to adhere to your suggestions for AfD voting and get more involved with fighting vandals. Hope you enjoy this piece of digital iron! - Mike | Talk 01:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. I've tried using popups, but I've actually found them to be annoying :-P. I have been using Godmode-light though, which emulates the "rollback" admin feature. Only trouble is that it doesn't provide an autmatic edit summary, which may come back to haunt me. I'm working on trying to fix that, however. Hope to see and RfA with your name on it soon. - Mike | Talk 01:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well I just got to use it on some guy who apparantly thought you knew why barnyard animals refrain from using toothpaste ;-). - Mike | Talk 01:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Haha. Wasn't aware, thanks. But really, all three of his edits have been vandalism, so to me that seems like his/her only purpose here. If I was an admin I probably would have blocked that IP for 24 hours if he/she did it again. Guess you can call me rouge :-). - Mike | Talk 01:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I really appreciate all of the time your taking to type all this up! Just add this to your RfA when it's set up

Support - Mike | Talk 02:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 :-D - Mike | Talk 02:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Let me know when you'd like to go for the tools and if you want I'll write a nomination for you. - Mike | Talk 02:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Of course. - Mike | Talk 02:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
When are you requesting adminship, Húsönd? I'm getting impatient :p Let me know if and when you are, I would love to co-nom. riana_dzasta 23:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
P.S. Checked out your portal - looks good! If you need a hand with anything, lemme know :) I know very little about Iceland, though. riana_dzasta 23:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Of course! I'll keep an eye out for interesting things. riana_dzasta 00:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

My first award, how flattering! Yes, the temptation must be overwhelming, but I know you will be able to make it through these challenging times. Je via sano, Dar-Ape 02:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Haha, anytime (though I must confess I don't know that much.) Dar-Ape 02:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


CVU

Hey Husond, what's shakin'? (Please don't answer that.) Anyway, your words have instilled in me a want to protect Wikipedia; so I've joined RCP and CVU. I did a bit of anti-vandalisim and I got a few (Yee-haw!). Any tips or recomendations? I am currently using Lupins Tool, which do you use? Do you recommend VandalProof? Thanks, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 06:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Dfrg. Congratulations on your first steps into the wonderful realm of countervandalism. Here's some tips:
  • I see that you're using Lupin's Tool, but perhaps you should aim for VandalProof. VandalProof is a powerful tool and I recommend that you try different vandal fight methods before installing it (such as manual or popup reversions).
  • When you have developed a good eye for even the subtlest vandalism and gotten accustomed to the set of warnings (test templates) and reporting to WP:AIV, then I definitely recommend installing VandalProof. You may even try installing both VP1.3 and VP2 as they fight vandalism in very different ways.
Good luck, I hope to see you around during my patrol. Have a Image:Beer.jpg. Cheers.--Húsönd 14:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Husond, you are a constant help to me. See you around, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 05:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Editor review

Thanks for the pats in the back, and glad the review was useful for you. As you can imagine, a featured "something" is enough for those claiming 1FA, however making a featured portal sounds hard. Good luck with that! As for the parts where you lack experience, if you decide to post your nomination, explain your lack of experience in those matters and that you will try to stay away from them, at least until you have obtained enough experience, and that you will be focusing on what you do best, dealing with vandals and closing article deletion discussions. Again, good luck with your future nomination, and remember, failing once does not mean you won't have another opportunity. -- ReyBrujo 18:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome! Well Drawn Charlie 09:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

What?

We've been experiencing massive backlog at AIV, I was clearing a username that was blocked (by Master J, I believe). --172.193.49.5 01:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, this revert was of many, many usernames I agonizingly checked off the list after making sure they were clearly blocked. (I'm on a craptacular dial-up connection). --172.193.49.5 01:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm very glad you were civil in your response, and I'm completely alright with the accidental reversal; however, I do not appreciate being told to get an account to be taken seriously. I can help with vandalism-not to mention contribute to an encyclopedia-without an account. I realize that being an AOL IP, I am the lowest of the low on the Wiki-food chain, but that does not mean I have any less rights than you or the next user. Remember: not all anons are idiots, and not all idiots are anons.
Also, I've never once had problems with removing names from AIV. Typically, anyone can do it so long as the edit is constructive. --172.193.49.5 01:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I realize that my edits were in an administrator related area, but this is the billionth time I've helped out there-yes, under an IP-and I've never once had problems. And these were not self-suggested, your message implied that I was an idiot because I'm a set of numbers as opposed to letters. --172.193.49.5 01:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Keep in mind my edits number somewhere in the thousands, each and every one under an IP. My edits are always constructive, and I very rarely have conflict. --172.193.49.5 01:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Confirmation can be provided if need be. --172.193.49.5 01:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
And therein lies the problem: my main static IP is no longer in use, as out internet connection was cut for a short period of time, thereby olbliterating it. --172.193.49.5 02:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Somebody has to do it. --172.193.49.5 02:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy B-day

Happy Birthday Husond may you have a great day and may many more happy years follow.--SeadogTalk 03:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I have always wanted that b-star, Kindness as my mom puts it is a virtue. I see that you are up for editor review I am going to comment, if you don't mind of course :)--
Just a happy Birthday message to you, Husond/Archive 3, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Happy B-day. Make it great! Randfan 19:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

re: Your welcome and thanks for the cake. I was getting a little hungry. :) Randfan 19:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Wikipedia wishes you a Happy Birthday!!
Wikipedia wishes you a Happy Birthday!!

- Hope you have a great day, and best of luck to you! - Jam01 06:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I didn't know it was your birthday when I messaged earlier :) Happy birthday, and I hope you have a great time today (and always!) riana_dzasta 07:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello. A very happy birthday! --Bhadani 15:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday! --Kyoko 17:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday from Editor at Large at Esperanza!

Hey, Husond/Archive 3! I heard it was your birthday, so I took the liberty of hand-making you a birthday card and sent it off on a Certified Esperanza Balloon. I hope the birds don't get to it first!

Best wishes! — Editor at Large(speak) 16:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Editor review

Hi how are you? Oh btw, is today your birthday?? Happy birthday! Wish you all the best and have a great day! I just want to beg you if you want to drop some lines on my editor review. Wikipedia:Editor review/Imoeng. Actually I was thinking to apply for adminship in the future, but I think my 3 months contribution is not enough for now. I like the way you review some other users on that page, so here I am, begging you to review me too :P. Cheers -- Imoeng 12:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for the review, I appreciate it :D. So I have started doing WP:RFA and I realised that I was wrong all along, MANY articles are just rubbish. Do I make some mistakes? Please let me know if my comments are inappropriate. Cheers -- Imoeng 01:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for that really cool Barnstar, did you create it? I was really being honest in the review you should run for administratorship in the next couple of weeks or even days! Have a nice day-_Image:Smile.png12:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seadog.M.S (talkcontribs) .

To help you with your welcoming of new Esperanza members...

... TangoTango has kindly written up a script that once a week lists all of the new members to Esperanza. The list can be found at User:Tangotango/New members of Esperanza; it is updated once a week, and will show all of the new members since the last update. If you're not sure if everyone who joined the past week has been welcomed, that is a great place to check! I hope that helps you in your welcome, and thank you for making a point to greet new Esperanzians! -- Natalya 18:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

That's a good point, I've moved him to the former members section - thanks for mentioning it. -- Natalya 15:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries

I noticed your link to the edit summary tool. Ran it on me and got a bit of a surprise. I have been using edit summaries for quite sometime now. Reviewing my last 500 edits shows that all of them have edit summaries. Any idea why this tool only shows me at 85%? Thank you in advance, and happy birthday! --Pascal666 18:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

IP removal from AIV

I'm not aware of a policy against this but apparently you told an IP not to remove already blocked user from WP:AIV and that this was an admin only thing. Is there a policy that says that? When I was not yet an admin I removed dealt with cases all the time and no on objected. JoshuaZ 01:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that. The user in question is normally under the IP 69.145.123.171 is well known as never registering an account but having more contributions than most registered users. You are correct that when I helped out with AIV as a non-admin I was already registered. I've told him that when he gets his old IP available it might be more reasonable for him to make edits on AIV since many users are aware of his existence under that IP address. JoshuaZ 06:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar!

Just like to say, thank you ever so much for the barnstar, it bought a smile to my face and I appreciate your kind comments. Once again, thanks for the barnstar, best wishes, and happy editing! Jam01 05:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA that I have passed with 73/2/1.--Jusjih 09:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Lane End Primary School article

Hi since your delete comment on the above article I have expanded it and added information locally relevant. I would appreciate it if you would review the article and your comment. Thank you --Alex 15:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your review!--Alex 16:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I need your help

but I want to clear my profile Lieutenant Dol Grenn, I want to quit Wikipedia. I want to log myself out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sergeant Gerzi (talk • contribs) .

Please, I just want to clear my Lieutenant Dol Grenn user. I don't want to have any commands on my talk page and I want to remove my user Sergeant Gerzi completely. Thanks. Please remove it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sergeant Gerzi (talk • contribs) .

i now have 150 edits

do i qualify to join Esperanza now? i got my siggy and stuff all ready too XD... --the marble 21:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Yet another thanks

Thanks for welcoming me to Esperanza! --The Great Llama(now on editor review!) 22:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:AFD

Umm, yeah, that "cheers" is included in my signature, so I can't get rid of it :P. Or should I delete it? I was thinking about that too. And yeah, sometimes I included my POV in my judgements, but hey, it is not bad for my first day isn't it? About the CSD, (yeah again) I always open a new tab just for it, hopefully I picked the right criteria. Again, thank you! Cheers -- Imoeng 01:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

"Cheers" says goodbye to AfD. ;) Thanks again -- Imoeng 01:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza

Thanks for the welcome message. I won't be spending the majority of my time on Wikipedia doing Esperanzan activities, but I'll get involved in programs such as admin coaching and Barnstar Brigade (not to mention feeling more welcome when I use my sock in the Coffee Lounge)! --Gray PorpoisePhocoenidae, not Delphinidae 03:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Reversion

I'd suggest that you review the revert you made of my edit here, as it was incorrect. Be careful not to bite potential newcomers who may be behind anon IPs — I'm an admin (just didn't bother to log in), so it's no skin off my back, but in my time here I've found that a welcome message should always precede any warning. It's far more inviting, and in some cases, the newbie isn't the one who's mistaken. Cheers. 66.139.12.121 05:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The assumption that you might hypothetically be an administrator is totally irrelevant. I doubt that you are an admin, but even if you are it just doesn't really matter here. Furthermore, it's rather unorthodox for a Wikipedia administrator to edit as an IP because "you didn't bother to log in", and even more unorthodox to later contact another user and claim that you are an administrator while still not bothering to log in. Oddly enough.
Now, I reviewed the edit I reverted and realized that it was in fact a good one, so I've restored it and apologize for the misstep.
I do not bite newcomers, and I refuse your suggestion that a welcome message should always precede a warning. Test1 warning is a perfectly polite way to report that an edit has been reverted. If an IP user is performing a good amount of edits, then someone will notice and place a welcoming message (and likely a suggestion to register) on their talk page. This definitely doesn't apply to the thousands of vandals whose single purpose is to disrupt Wikipedia. --Húsönd 16:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Very well — here, I'm logged in. Do you believe me now? Don't assume that just because you see an IP it must mean the user behind it isn't experienced with Wikipedia.
Whether or not you choose to use a test1 or a welcome template to "greet" new users is entirely your prerogative. As I mentioned on your user review, there's no particular rule saying what to do. The reason I made the suggestion, however, is to give you some advice on something that has worked well for me in the past. I've found that since I've began to give new editors the benefit of the doubt by extending a warm welcome instead of a warning (albeit a mild one), they tend to take a more active involvement in Wikipedia. In some cases, they've come to me for help on contributing and have turned into regular editors. Now, could that be coincidental? Maybe. But even if the user you offer a welcome to turns out to be a vandal, it's no big deal — we're on a wiki. It can be reverted. Better to welcome a positive contributor who's made a mistake while allowing a few more vandal edits than to lose him by being overenthusiastic in our vandal patrols.
At any rate, I assume that since you have an editor review page, you're inviting suggestions from others (particularly in relation to a possible RfA). You can take my advice, disregard it, whatever. But if you're going to react negatively to comments from others, why invite them? When I was more active here — and I haven't been lately, which is why I don't bother to log in — I often participated in other editors' RfAs, since I consider it an important thing to be involved in. Something I've seen consistently is that the successful admins are the ones who go the extra mile when it comes to participating here, whether it be through innovative editing, working to mediate disputes, or whatever it may be. Asking for advice is a good thing to do — but don't toss something aside just because the source may seem suspect. I've learned that lesson the hard way.
Feel free to e-mail me if you'd care to discuss this further, as it's likely that I won't be able to return to monitor this conversation for some time. Best of luck in your upcoming RfA. Tijuana Brass 04:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Can't you make an exception?

I read your links and I saw that one cannot remove users. But my aim is, I want to remove all commands on my talk page. Sergeant Gerzi 16:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Well then...

Are you an administrator? If not, could you give me some usernames of several administrators? Sergeant Gerzi 16:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your advices

Thanks for your advices. Sergeant Gerzi 17:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

chicken soup vandal

Interesting... wish I could've claimed that one, you beat me to it :) — Editor at Large(speak) 00:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

a message from a guy

i am the guy who changed plano tx. it is not a test!!! it is true. www.metasolv.com!!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.30.145.199 (talkcontribs)

Ants

The verse on the ant article is wrong, you wrote the verse wrong first of all, and misinterpretted the text. as it should be, "Go to the ant thou sluggard, consider her ways and be wise"—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.26.59 (talkcontribs)

Here is the Thumbs Up Award

You have earned the 'Thumbs Up Award for the swift justice that you've delt vandals everywhere
You have earned the 'Thumbs Up Award for the swift justice that you've delt vandals everywhere

for beating me to the vandalism at Pablo Picasso. I saw it happen and by the time my rather slow system swung into action you had already cleared it up. Life is good. Carptrash 15:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

re:Barnstar

Just look at that pretty barnstar o_0 Thank you very much :) semper fiMoe 19:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Mate

Thanks for the Welcome. I hope to work with you in the future. Culverin? Talk 03:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the esperanaza welcome! Much appreciated! Chris Kreider 20:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Dragonfly compound eye

Hi Husond!
I was wondering if you could specify your prefence (b/w the two versions) on the dragonfly compound eye FPC nom? Thanks, --Fir0002 08:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza User Page Award

Hi Husond! You've signed up to be a judge for the Esperanza User Page Award! You'll have three user pages to examine. The user pages you get coincide with your signup number. So if you signed up to be a judge in spot 1 than you will get nominations 1-3. Pick your favorite one, and list it in the finalist section. After all 5 judges have chosen a finalist it's time to award them 1-10 points in the four categories:

  • Attractiveness: general layout, considering colour scheme and/or use of tables if applicable
  • Usefulness: links to subpages or editing aids, helpful information
  • Interesting-ness: quirky, unique, captivating, or funny content
  • General niceness: at the judges' discretion

Please remember to include Subpages in your judging criteria. See the Scores section on this page for additional information on your job as a judge.

Keep in mind that your scores are confidential! Email Celestianpower with your scores and final picks. As soon as all the scores have been tallied, a winner will be announced! Thanks. Daniel.Bryant T · C ] 09:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Spain

Are you from Spain? Sergeant Gerzi 18:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Where are you from? Sergeant Gerzi 12:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Wahoo

Well, I've been nominated for adminship. I've done my best to learn from your feedback on my editor review; if you're still confident about my abilities with a mop, I'd appreciate your support. EVula 22:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Ambar - deleted and then restored

Not sure if this has been pointed out, but it looks like AfD screwed up. Just to start the ball rolling and institute a culture change, I'm trying to get all admins closing things at AfD to remember to check the page history of an article before deleting, so that drastic changes in the nature of a page are spotted, and also urging those voting at AfD to do the same. See the following for details:

Copied to closing admin, restoring admin, deletion nominator, all who voted in the AfD discussion, and the AfD talk page. Carcharoth 23:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Valencia move

Hi Tariqabjotu. I closed a move discussion for the first time (here). Could you please verify if it was done properly? Should a copy of the discussion be archived somewhere? Regards.--Húsönd 23:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You closed the move correctly; the discussion is not archived anywhere else. -- tariqabjotu 01:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Word of thanks

Appreciate your work :-)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.206.156.166 (talkcontribs)

You sure you're not a bot? =)

Just an FYI, I fixed the problem with the compatibility of AIV and ARV. [1] -- Gogo Dodo 06:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Lupin

How do I get Lupins tool? Can you give me some sort of instructions? Thanks. Culverin? Talk 08:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I got Lupins tool. So how do I do non-admin rollback? Culverin? Talk 04:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. Culverin? Talk 04:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)