Talk:Hurricane Hugo

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[edit] Question

Can someone verify the 3000 tornadoes? that sounds like an awfully high number.

I removed it. That is definetly false. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Todo

I put this as a B. Nonetheless there is a lot to be done here - inline references would be a good start, with a little more on storm history, restructuring of the 3 impact sections, maybe a separate "preparations" and "aftermath" sections. Jdorje 20:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I say that this is a c because someone doing a report or term of the sort might need more information like when the hurricane hit time date category before and after it hit and scale on the damage. Thus making it easier to gather such information and getting everything one would need to know.The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) .

[edit] Restructuring

I restructured the article quite a bit. The new structure is much better but some of the sections need to be expanded. The one-paragraph sections should most likely be expanded rather than removed. — jdorje (talk) 05:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deaths

Can we have a deaths-by-region table? http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdeadlyapp1.shtml lists it as Guadeloupe, Montserrat, South Carolina. — jdorje (talk) 05:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tornadoes

Well, I might have found a source. This site says the storm had 3000 embedded tornadoes. However, the official NOAA answer to the most tornadoes from a hurricane was Ivan with 117, far less than Hugo's supposed 3000. I propose we get rid of it. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The official reports don't give a quantity to the number of tornadoes associated with Hugo and 3000 is ridiculously high; I mean thats more than 4 times the annual average for tornadoes in the US! I've found a few refs for the 3000 figure as well, but when the NWS doesn't mention give a figure in its report (interestingly they used the Fujita scale to quantify the straightline wind damage) but the implication of the text is there was a low number of tornadoes. Did you notice that site cited Hurricane Andrew? I say get rid of it or mention "the SC gov said there were 3000 tornadoes" if a good source can be found for it but also stating he was wrong.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, we should just get rid of it. There's no point in even saying the governor was wrong, as it's not particularly important to the article. Unless there was some controvery involving what he said, there's no point in even mentioning it, especially since we don't know for sure how much damage the tornadoes did, nor how many there were. Yea, the Andrew mention was interesting. It'd be good in the Andrew article. Hurricanehink (talk) 13:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I think there's a big difference between spawned tornadoes and embedded tornadoes. We don't even know that much about the latter phenomenon, so for all we know 3000 could be correct. Pobbie Rarr 21:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I doubt that however, the source is what a state governor said not what a meteorologist said after all. In the case of Katrina, there were 62 tornadoes spawned by Katrina. However, the area subject to F2 damaging eyewall winds comprised several counties in MS and LA, a far greater area (see the last page of the NWS report). Hurricanes don't need to spawn tornadoes to do F2 damage.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi -- I added a couple of external links. If you review the 1994 report, most of the severe damage was attributed to microbursts, based on aerial observations of the damage patterns. It seems to be a common misconception that there are a lot of tornadoes associated with the strongest hurricane winds, which may be because it is the only frame of reference that an observer has to comprehend what is occuring. For instance, a woman quoted in the Sun Herald said of Katrina that when it came ashore she saw tornadoes all around her. Margie 20:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hugo Images

It's hard to tell because one of them is rotated, but aren't the two images in the article showing the storm in the exact same position? Also, the first one in the infobox is unsourced. I found the best Hugo image at this site [1], but I don't know if we can use it here. Good kitty 00:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Death Count

The intro has it at 82, but all other mentions are at 76. Thanos6 (talk) 04:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)