Talk:Hurricane (song)

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For a discussion of this NPOV dispute, see Talk:Rubin Carter. Blackcats 19:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC) Why? Is this according to Wiki guidelines? This article should be about the song, not about the factsa of the case. Quite a different topic. Gray62 15:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

The case Rubin Carter may be unclear and disputed, however, Hurricane (song) expresses the views of Bob Dylan on the matter (and one therforem may disagree). The reproduction of such a view is no more than simple fact and I personally don't think there is a case for discussion here. ScroipT 12:46, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

What have y'all done to that article? Imho it is in worse shape than at the time I stopped working on it. Some important information about Dylan's work on the song is gone, and instead some info about the Carter case was inserted, that doesn't belong HERE. Someone here seems to be interested to spread his opinion about Carter, and this led to statements here that directly contradict the infos at the main article (for instance, #3 or #9 contender?). In this state, this article isn't NPOV! I also doubt the wisdom of descussing this article at the Rubin Carter Discussion, this is only messing up the discussion. I for one certainly won't do that, but will state my objections here, where they belong! Gray62 15:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

"The strength and majesty of our judicial system is founded on the exposition of the truth through a process of submission of evidence and argument to a body of neutral citizens, and not through a process of imagery conjured by Maddison Avenue public relations and a collection of uninformed celebrities". Hon. Judge Larner, 1975.

I was told once that Dylan stopped performing the song and withdrew his public support after changing his mind about Carter; in the words of the teller "after he found out that Carter was not such a nice guy". Is there any truth to that? I've looked for some source or reference to that effect to no avail. Anazgnos 21:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the fact that none of the "celebrities" who initialy supported Carter showed up at the trial, and had all withdrawn their support speaks volumes. And when the movie Hurricane was released, Dylan's fans were screaming out for him to perform it, he never did.

The "not such a nice guy" comment rings a bell, it may be from Behind The Shades by Heylin, but I can't check because I don't have it in my possesion at the moment. Hope this helps. Lion King 16:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hurricane45.jpg

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BetacommandBot 05:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] n-word

if a white guy used the n-word in a song these days, even if it was trying to prove an anti-racism type of point like in this song, he'd be killed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.151.167.253 (talk) 16:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

The racial revenge theory coming into play? Educated Guest (talk) 23:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Ya, a couple of riots happened when Axl Rose used it in One in a Million! 157.190.228.23 (talk) 18:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why doesn't Dylan sing it anymore?

Why doesn't Dylan sing this song anymore? Is it perhaps because he believes he was conned by Carter?? I think some explaination for him not singing it in over 20 years should be given, especially given its popularity! 157.190.228.23 (talk) 11:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

There is no explanation that can be given, other than he never has, in over 20 years. It may well be very popular with his fans, but maybe he now realises that it is so grossly inaccurate, that he can't possibly perform it? Just a thought. Educated Guest (talk) 00:28, 3 February 2008 (UTC)