Talk:HurriQuake

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An entry from HurriQuake appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 7 December 2006.

Contents 1 Naming conventions 2 Reads like an Ad? 3 Needs a reference and more info 4 Just another ring shank/name change 5 "Environment nail"?

[edit] Naming conventions

Your using a trademark as the name of the article may violate Wikipedia:Naming conventions and/or Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) and you may want to review Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) concerning your use of the trademark HurriQuake in the article. As for a proposed name for the article, what about Environment nails based on Sutt's patent Fastener for use in adverse environmental conditions. -- Jreferee 00:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

• I am ok with that. I did not create the article, just expanded it with the sources that I had. I am ok with any renaming that you see appropriate! I just go around and expand and cite articles with the information that I find. I will keep my eye out for changes. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 00:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
• If Microsoft can be the name of an article, then HurriQuake can be the name of an article. I added environment nail after each appearance of HurriQuake. -- Jreferee 00:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reads like an Ad?

Reads like an ad. Nails with various similar features have been known for a long time; as a teenager in the 60s, ringed or ridged nails were considered std for high pull apps. Is this really that new ?

My intetion was to make sure it did not read like an ad, but explain the significance and the breakthrough that this nail provided. I think the siginificance of this nail is it is such a major expansion on original nail. From just sstandard galvainzed nails, regular shank nails. Sure, regular ring shank nails have existed for a long time, and so have twisted nails, and probably even large head nails. However, the nail has been something that most people have just accepted. There are several major difference, In my opinion, that make this nail significant enough for its own article. I would consider it not much different than an article on a breakthrough medication that can save lots of lives. I have no objection to removing content that appears to read like an ad. If you want, we can discuss that here. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, some of the grandiose wording and repetition causes the article to read like marketing material. There's only two references; the patent and the PopSci article. Improving the references would probably be a natural way to razor away the hype. -- Mikeblas (talk) 03:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needs a reference and more info

I think this article is a good start. I would like to see more on how these measurements relate to wind speed. 20,000 kN force measurement on the nails makes it have the ability to sustain winds of what speed? From this article I have no idea how bad a hurricane must be to break these nails. Nor do I have any idea of how much hurricane force winds a regular nail can handle. Clearly, some standard nails can handle a category 1 storm, but can they handle a category 5 storm? Some where in between? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.20.51.255 (talk) 21:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

"more info" ought to include a photograph or drawing of the nail. Here a picture is worth a thousand words. CharlesKiddell 22:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I feel ya. I will work on that. This article was created in the last week and there is alot of room for improvement! At least it is based on a source. Feel free to contribute pictures yourselves. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 23:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Here you go. Two pictures, right off the patent. Maurice Fox 15:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just another ring shank/name change

Thought I would mention that the "ring shank" nail design has been around for some time and is actually a very common nail manufactured by a variety of companies.[1] I don't know how this nail sets itself apart from the others, but I use ring shank nails constantly and I have never seen the word "HurriQuake" used to describe a ring shank nail. I now see that the ring shank nail is being referred to as "HurriQuake" in the Nail (fastener) article but the term "ring shank" is listed as the terminology used to describe the type of nail. I think a name change to ring shank (fastener) or ring shank (nail) would be appropriate or at least make it clear that it is a common ring shank and then removed from the Nail (fastener) article. --I already forgot 20:26, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Environment nail"?

This article repeatedly uses the term "environment nail". What is an environment nail, precisely? -- Mikeblas (talk) 03:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)