Template talk:Human Evolution
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[edit] Horizontal/vertical
i see that this template is not fitting well in most articles
i think a horizontal instead of a vertical template would be nice
Mateuszica (talk) 15:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] ugly
I'm sorry, but this template is too ugly to place on every article. It's dominating the whole page. Maybe a template like Template:Mammals is better. Ucucha (talk) 16:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- I'm very much in agreement! I've gone ahead and made the initial edit, both the vert -> horiz change, plus a few others. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Two questions
- Forgive my ignorance, but how can homo sapiens be a member of proto-humans?
- Wouldn't it be better to title the box "Human taxonomy"?
Rich Farmbrough 14:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Isn't that really one question with a possible solution? *grins* Yes, I picked "proto-humans" a little rashly. However, "human taxonomy" is both inaccurate (our taxonomy is Animalia, Chordata, Mammalia, etc.) and would really extend to the older species at the top of the box. I'm open to other suggestions. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:08, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] And two more
- What do we mean by "human" in this context?
- What about H. s. idaltu etc?
Rich Farmbrough 14:33, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Which context? "proto-human" or "human evolution"? - UtherSRG (talk) 12:09, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Kenyanthropus platyops
I think that this would fit better in the australopithicenes rather than the proto-humans. 68.97.8.174 01:15, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] additions
I am thinking about adding some related links like Timeline of human evolution, Graphical timeline of human evolution and List of human fossils. To do so I would probably need to reorganize a bit, I also don't like how the first section doesn't get a header. I will post some alternatives here so people can comment. Nowimnthing 23:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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Part of the series on Human Evolution
Hominini Sahelanthropus tchadensis - Orrorin tugenensis Ardipithecus: A. kadabba - A. ramidus Australopithecines Australopithecus : A. afarensis - A. africanus - A. anamensis - A. bahrelghazali - A. garhi Paranthropus: P. aethiopicus - P. boisei - P. robustus Humans and Proto-humans Kenyanthropus platyops Homo: H. antecessor - H. habilis - H. rudolfensis - H. rhodesiensis - H. cepranensis - H. georgicus - H. erectus - H. ergaster - H. heidelbergensis - H. neanderthalensis - H. floresiensis - H. sapiens idaltu - H. sapiens sapiens Topics related to human evolution: Timeline of human evolution - Graphical timeline of human evolution - List of human fossils
Nowimnthing 00:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
sidebar option, maybe I can reduce the text to make the bar a bit shorter Nowimnthing 04:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I like the sidebar, but now that I think about it, it won't work well on the species pages with taxoboxes. Nowimnthing 13:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Option 3
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Hominini | Sahelanthropus tchadensis - Orrorin tugenensis |
| Ardipithecus: A. kadabba - A. ramidus | ||
| Australopithecines | Australopithecus : A. afarensis - A. africanus - A. anamensis - A. bahrelghazali - A. garhi | |
| Paranthropus: P. aethiopicus - P. boisei - P. robustus | ||
| Humans and Proto-humans | Kenyanthropus platyops | |
| Homo: H. antecessor - H. habilis - H. rudolfensis - H. rhodesiensis - H. cepranensis - H. georgicus - H. erectus - H. ergaster - H. heidelbergensis - H. neanderthalensis - H. floresiensis - H. sapiens idaltu - H. sapiens sapiens | ||
| Topics | Timeline of human evolution - Graphical timeline of human evolution - List of human fossils |
option 4
| Hominini | Sahelanthropus tchadensis - Orrorin tugenensis |
| Ardipithecus: A. kadabba - A. ramidus | |
| Australopithecines | Australopithecus : A. afarensis - A. africanus - A. anamensis - A. bahrelghazali - A. garhi |
| Paranthropus: P. aethiopicus - P. boisei - P. robustus | |
| Humans and Proto-humans | Kenyanthropus platyops |
| Homo: H. antecessor - H. habilis - H. rudolfensis - H. rhodesiensis - H. cepranensis - H. georgicus - H. erectus - H. ergaster - H. heidelbergensis - H. neanderthalensis - H. floresiensis - H. sapiens idaltu - H. sapiens sapiens | |
| Topics | Timeline of human evolution - Graphical timeline of human evolution - List of human fossils
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option 5 (adding subspecies)
| Hominini | Sahelanthropus tchadensis - Orrorin tugenensis |
| Ardipithecus: A. kadabba - A. ramidus | |
| Australopithecines | Australopithecus : A. afarensis - A. africanus - A. anamensis - A. bahrelghazali - A. garhi |
| Paranthropus: P. aethiopicus - P. boisei - P. robustus | |
| Humans and Proto-humans | Kenyanthropus platyops |
| Homo: H. antecessor - H. habilis - H. rudolfensis - H. rhodesiensis - H. cepranensis - H. georgicus - H. ergaster - H. heidelbergensis - H. neanderthalensis - H. floresiensis | |
| Topics | Timeline of human evolution - Graphical timeline of human evolution - List of human fossils - Human evolutionary genetics
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- Since there is no comments, I guess I will be bold and try it out. Nowimnthing 00:05, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Um... I really don't like the "patchwork" options. Your first revision above is the best, although the sidebar is very nice, too. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- It did feel a little clunky when I got it on the real pages. I am just going to update the other one for now and try to work on on wiki table markup skills. Nowimnthing 17:56, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chimps
Okay, you people won't think its important, but we should the two species of chimps into the template. We could change it to Template:Hominini.--4444hhhh (talk) 03:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've just noticed that the chimps (Pan) have been added to this template. All the other linked pages relate to species which are either potential human ancestors (i.e the Australopithecines ) , or are actually of the homo genus i.e Homo floresiensis. Chimps are neither of these things. I know that the Panina are our closest living relatives, but that does not mean they are part of Human Evolution , the common ancestor of chimps and humans would be, but not the currently living members of Panina. Including chimps here seems misleading, as it suggests human's evolved from chimps, which is simply not true. Both Chimps and Humans evolved from our last common ancestor. If we continue to add further species based on evolving from the same common ancestor why not add the great apes, then the gibbons...and so on. It gets ridiculous. After all we share a common ancestor with every living thing if you go back far enough.
- Any objections to removing these and the links from the Chimp pages? GameKeeper (talk) 22:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- I can see how chimps and other great apes fit in because primatology usually falls under the umbrella of anthropology, but it doesn't really fall completely under human evolution. Both human evolution and primatology are sub disciplines of anth as is ethnography. I would support primatology under an anth template, but not on this one. They are more like closely overlapping areas than primatology being a subset of human evolution, which this seems to imply. Nowimnthing (talk) 12:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've removed the Pan links GameKeeper (talk) 20:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- I can see how chimps and other great apes fit in because primatology usually falls under the umbrella of anthropology, but it doesn't really fall completely under human evolution. Both human evolution and primatology are sub disciplines of anth as is ethnography. I would support primatology under an anth template, but not on this one. They are more like closely overlapping areas than primatology being a subset of human evolution, which this seems to imply. Nowimnthing (talk) 12:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
