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[edit] Merging this with Foreign Aid

I'm against it. Humanitarian aid is not always Foreign, and Foreign aid is not always Humanitarian.

A Humanitarian NGO, or even a national government, may give aid to all sorts of different localities including some within its own nation-state of residence: think of the New Delhi office of Médecins sans Frontières, soliciting financial and other aid in Mumbai for tsunami victims on the Coromandel Coast... or Maharashtra state government emergency agencies doing the same, in a sense, trying to get assistance from New Delhi and / or other state governments for sending some crack emergency team they may have developed to Tamil Nadu...

And as for Foreign Aid being humanitarian, well, guns are not butter & butter are not guns.

The "humanitarian" label is a relatively new one, moreover: more a creature of the recently-Globalizing world -- while "foreign" is definitely a creature of the past, of the nation-state world now steadily fraying around its edges. Wikipedia users are going to come here looking for Humanitarian Aid -- a popular buzzword in the media, now, and increasingly a fixture in Globalization talk -- and they should be able to find something about it, something totally developed on its own and not stuck in the old ideas of nation-states and Foreign Aid.

Someone needs to fold in a section on Humanitarian Law, here. Also on Humanitarian NGOs and the NGO movement generally. This is all a rapidly developing area of Globalization: nothing which can get slotted back into older 19th c. & earlier nation-state concepts.

--Kessler 21:01, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Agree that 'humanitarian aid' and 'foreign aid' are quite distinct concepts. Mirror Vax 21:42, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Agreed these are 2 totally different concepts! Waerth 10:39, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Also agree! --64.12.116.69 03:16, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Agree. -- Kjkolb 11:31, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I removed the tag after checking for comments on the other talk page. -- Kjkolb 11:38, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merging Humanitarian aid section of Aid article into Humanitarian aid article

I agree with all above that humanitarian aid should not be merged foreign aid, but if I understand the tag on the Aid article, the proposal is to merge the section Humanitarian aid which is in the Aid article into the Humanitarian aid article. There is duplication, but the distinction made between humanitarian intervention and humanitarian aid is important to retain. Joel Mc 14:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Designing for Humanitarian Aid - mobility issues. Please Help

I am a final year design degree student at the University of Brighton, England. Researching design issues for refugees and support workers, with regards to mobility issues for injured refugees. If anyone has any information on this subject I would much appreciate it. Does anyone knows what kind of products are sent to refugee areas already (in aid boxes etc), as i am looking to use objects already sent, to create a product to aid mobility.

Regards John j.v.d.Heuvel@bton.ac.uk

[edit] ICRC status

International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) is not an NGO, and should not be under that section. In many ways, ICRC is a very unique organization in that it has legal status in international relations (generally, only countries have legal status). Thus, ICRC is not a non-governmental organization – though it does have many characteristics that are common to NGOs.

Read here. http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList109/522C6628D83A019741256E3D003FC85F

–The Red Cross and NGO Code of Conduct for Disaster Response coined the term non-governmental humanitarian agency (NGHA) to apply to the ICRC, the IFRC, and the national societies as well as NGOs. See http://www.ifrc.org/publicat/conduct/index.asp?navid=09_08. Joel Mc 06:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted Africa Crisis Foundation

The site got turned into a spyware infected site. And it's been "under construction" for months, but A-Squared Realtime shield caught lots of spyware coming off the site. I've removed the link.

[edit] Cleaned external links and see also

Please keep the links clean. No need to list all the NGOs in the world. Set up a list article for that instead. There were some EL that were better suited for the articles on Development studies or Non-governmental organizations. External links shold not be snuck into the see also links. --rxnd ( t | € | c ) 15:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

this is a good start in shaping up this piece. I agree that it makes no sense to list all the NGOs, but I do see a problem in seeing some of them listed while removing others, i.e. Care, but not IRC or Oxfam or Save etc. True some of them are both humanitarian and development but they should be listed both places. I will try and spend some time on this next week or so (I am presently in the depths of France and don't have easy access to a fast internet connection.)--Joel Mc 08:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
You are right. When you mentioned it, I realised that I just left the organisations that were in the See Also section. It might be that I am more liberal in including See also links as they benefit the development of wikipedia articles. Anyway, IMHO under no circumstances should an organisation or subject with an existing Wiki article be listed with an external link in addition to the See also link. Although I do not see WP:EL mentioning anything about that. --rxnd ( t | € | c ) 09:30, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More on External Links

Hu12: Perhaps we should have started here but be that as it may, there is no question that the article needs a lot of work. I see above that I said that I would work on it and completely forgot. Of course Sphere should have been removed since it already as an internal link. I have put back in both IRIN (it is a UN Info agency with very useful uptodate info) and Alertnet which it is true is done by Reuters, but is specialized in humanitarian crises and is also useful to anyone who is reading about humanitarin aid. Unfortunately I am once again traveling in and out of Wikipedia reach over the next six weeks(China) so my work will be sporadic.--Joel Mc (talk) 10:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks--Hu12 (talk) 11:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)