Talk:Hulk (comics)/Archive03

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Contents 1 current personality status of Hulk ( as of current issues) 2 Reverse Gamma Rays 3 #500 4 Image size 5 Hulk in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 6 Hulk in Secret Wars

[edit] current personality status of Hulk ( as of current issues)

Wondering which personality is currently showed in current issues of Hulk. Or is the Hulk alternating personalities due to his personality disorder? 18:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The personality which writer Greg Pak has been using for his "Planet Hulk" storyline has been named the "Gravage Hulk" by certain sectors of fandom. Based upon the personality and dialogue Pak has given the Hulk, it is a safe conclusion that this "Gravage Hulk" is essentially a merger of the Green and Grey versions, as he has demostrated the characteristics of both. The "Gravage Hulk's" relationship with the Banner persona is a bit mysterious right now, as the Banner persona has been largely absent from the storyline. By necessity, Banner has refrained from emerging for the most part, probably because all personas know that Banner wouldn't last 5 minutes on Sakaar. The Hulk even stated early in the storyline that "you (the warbound) will never see Banner here" or something to that effect. I'll provide the page and panel number when I get a chance and if someone really needs me to. Darin Wagner 14:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

No. The term "Grayvage Hulk" gets 6 Google hits. Six. That's not enough a single sector of fandom. Let it go. Doczilla 08:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I got 570ish hits with the spelling Gravage (which is what Mikesmash under his ISP number had changed the spelling to), but this is almost entirely fan stuff. The Hulk article is too long as it is without adding fancruft. Doczilla 09:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

It's fan-crap. Even the citation has Pak quoting fans, not coining the term or taking it as his own. He further states outright that it's Peter David's merged Hulk. The best we can do now is see an extra line being added to the 'merged hulk section', stating "A similar version is being used by writer Greg Pak in the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk story arcs." then the citation. That would satisfy citation, include the relevant information, and avoid fanning this thing up any more. I'd really like to see each Hulk major Hulk persona labelled by writer, not nicknames. The Merged Hulk would be 'Peter David's Hulk', and could all be re-written for a far more Out of Universe analysis of each.ThuranX 11:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

PS - G-hits is not enough on it's own to validate inclusion. ThuranX 11:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Pretty definite it's Savage Hulk, since for the big Hulk events, they'd want to use "The" Hulk. It's pretty much Savage Hulk's personality, he's just got a bigger vocabulary borrowed from Banner, Gray, and the Prof. He's not much like Prof/Merged Hulk at all. So it's the Savage Hulk, just all grown up, I guess.

There is no way that this is the "Savage Hulk." That personality is distinct and does not evolve. It is a practically illiterate child. The "Green Scar" personality is identical to the original Merged Hulk. Cunning, tactical, brutal, and extremely powerful. It's only missing Banner's Super-Intellect. This Hulk seems to have greater psychic control however, since it clearly has mastery of it's rage boost, where none of the other personalities did. I vote that we split the Merged and Professor into 2 distinct personalities, or at least make a new personality listing for the "Green Scar." I know that Marvel would hate it, but it makes the most sense. Marvel scammed readers when they retconned the Merged Hulk into the Professor. That was almost as bad as bringing Bucky back or the clone saga from Spider-Man.

[edit] Reverse Gamma Rays

What is all this talk about gamma radiation? I seem to remember that Dr. Bruce Banner was experimenting with reverse gamma radiation when something went horribly wrong, or horribly right, and he became the Incredible Hulk. This is an important point because many people have been exposed to gamma radiation and there is only one Incredible Hulk. To the best of my knowledge, Dr. Bruce Banner is the only person to have been exposed to reverse gamma radiation, and, hence, is the only person to have become the Incredible Hulk. I am probably wrong about that last item, but my point is that reverse gamma rays are extremely rare. Otherwise, there would be lots of Incredible Hulks running around. Substituting gamma rays for reverse gamma rays in the Hulk story is not cute like substituting a recombinant DNA spider for a radioactive spider in the Spiderman movie. It would be a sacrilege like substituting copper for kryptonite in the Superman story.Captain Phoenix 00:49, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] #500

Can ANYONE tell me when Hulk is going to reach it's 500th issue?

Technically speaking, the Hulk has already reached its 500th issue a while back. Before they relaunched the Hulk title, there had been somewhere around 470 issues of the Incredible Hulk already printed since 1962.Odin's Beard 23:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

And for future posts refrain from using the talk page for anything but discussions about the article. This is not a forum. Also dont forget to sign your posts. Thefro552 02:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

This SHOULD be in the Article. To Odin's Beard: when Marvel rebooted Incredible Hulk at Issue #474... it was technically only issue #376. Here's why. After the first six issues of Incredible Hulk in 1962, Marvel canceled the series. Six years later, "Tales to Astonish" was renamed into "The Incredible Hulk" starting at issue #102. Therefore, if you do the math, Hulk is technically at issue #484. pvegeta 16:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

That's very interesting and all, but I fail to see how it could be important to the article. It's an itneresting bit of trivia, but that's about it. If there were a trivia section, it'd be an ideal addition I believe. However, since the article is, currently, almost the same size as the Wolverine article, last thing it needs really is another section.Odin's Beard 23:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image size

Per Wikipedia Manual of Style:

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--Tenebrae 04:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hulk in Marvel Ultimate Alliance

The section describing Bruce Banner's appearance in Marvel Ultimate Alliance is unclear. It says who voiced him in the Xbox, PS3 and Wii versions and also says he was a playable character in the downloadable add-on to the Xbox 360 version. There is no mention of the PS2, PSP and PC versions of the game. Does Bruce Banner appear in them at all? 218.215.128.29 04:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

That's not unclear, it's incomplete. feel free to research that and report back. ThuranX 05:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hulk in Secret Wars

The mountain lifitng feet is a huge misconception spread across net that needs to be clarified for an enclyopedia. Just saying on cover "he's under billions of tons of rock" doesn't translate to "he alone is supporting 150 billion tons." just because there are "two miles of rock above them" doesn't mean "he alone is supporting 150 billion tons." he's holding a lot of weight, i'll give him that much. but he isn't holding/bracing/pushing against 150 billion tons. The planes of the top half of the mountain and the bottom half of the mountain weren't separated. hulk wasn't the only point of connection between, thus, he was not bracing the entire weight of the mountain. the vast majority of the "bottom half" on which the "top half" was resting was holding the majority of the weight. If that much weight was pressing down directly onto the hulk, the rock wall would be shattering and grinding every hero in their to dust as it takes over the "empty" area in an attempt to relieve the pressure. This is pretty easy to see in issue.

You're substituting personal interpretation and opinion for what the official stance is. If Marvel Comics says that the guy supported or can support 150 billion tons, that's what goes into the article. Granted, it was written on the cover of the issue but the amount of weight is still clearly written. Everything you said makes sense in the real world, but you're fighting a losing battle when it comes to applying logic to comic book articles. If anyone has ever read a comic book, it's obvious that what's logical isn't always what applies. Even the laws of science and nature don't apply in comic books, as they're routinely broken on a regular basis. Odin's Beard 13:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Have you even read the ACTUAL issue??? The cover only says "he's under billions of tons of rock" thats it! This would be like posting a comic cover that has Venom holding the broken body dead body of spiderman as saying venom killed spiderman. read the issue and make sense of the logic instead of HYPERBOLE--which doesn't belong on wiki.

Yes, I have read the actual issue. I've got the paperback of all 12 issues, which features the cover of each individual issue inside. I'm looking at the cover of #4 right this second and it says, and I quote, "Beneath one hundred and fifty billion tons, stands the Hulk -- And he's not Happy!" You really need to get your facts straight before you post. Also, please sign your posts next time.Odin's Beard 23:06, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I too have the 12 issue paper-back and my Dad has the original issue and it DOES say one hundred and fifty billion tons...Nuff SaidThe K.O. King 2 August 2007