Talk:Hula hoop
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[edit] Image:Hula hoop girl 01.jpg
This image is a suspected copyright violation and may soon be deleted from the Commons:. Since I am the original uploader, I am posting this message for informative purposes. —Viriditas | Talk 03:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Female superiority?
Is there any truth to the theory that women are better hoopers due to having hips? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.65.35.254 (talk • contribs) 3:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- All normally constructed humans have hips. And what do you mean by better? Doctormatt 00:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- For the sake of argument, let's propose that the anon means to say that in competitive hooping, the question arises whether or not adult female humans may have an advantage over males due to the broad size of their hips (in many cases but not all, putting exceptions aside) thus being able to keep a hoop in movement more easily and for longer periods of time around their waist (as opposed to other parts of the body that may and are often used). The anon's question seems to be more about the physics of hooping than about the physiology of the female body. —Viriditas | Talk 03:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- By "broad size of their hips" I assume you mean relative to their waists, yes? For simply being large would not particularly be advantageous. Although I have not observed competitive hula hooping, my impression of hula hoopers generally is that keeping the hoop going is not really an issue. All good hoopers can keep their hoops going, essentially, indefinitely. However, in niche competitions, say, where the contest is to spin as many hoops as possible simultaneously, the shape of ones body may perhaps give one advantages.Doctormatt 04:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- For the sake of argument, let's propose that the anon means to say that in competitive hooping, the question arises whether or not adult female humans may have an advantage over males due to the broad size of their hips (in many cases but not all, putting exceptions aside) thus being able to keep a hoop in movement more easily and for longer periods of time around their waist (as opposed to other parts of the body that may and are often used). The anon's question seems to be more about the physics of hooping than about the physiology of the female body. —Viriditas | Talk 03:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think the answer is most likely no, it is not an advantage. Keeping the hoop up has little or nothing to do with the curve in your hip. I think that is the default position more because its easier to get your muscles coordinated to the rhythm there. Hula hoopers rarely actually have the hoop in that postion anyways. Its usually somewhere a bit more interesting, and only on the waist in passing. The only significant difference between girls and guys that I've seen is that some basic tricks are actually more difficult for girls because of their breasts (its harder for some girls than others, but I know one girl who was initially having trouble getting the hoop to travel from her hips to her neck because of her large breasts.) Girls have one advantage when learning--they are usually more comfortable with the kind of body movements that you make when hooping. Some guys are initially more self-concious than most girls because hooping is associated with femninity. Some of the best hula hoopers I've seen is actually are guys. these two guys for example, and as you can see the dark haired one has very small hips.
- Hips might actually make it a tad bit harder to get it to travel from your thighs to back over your hips too. But I don't think it makes too much of a difference. In my experience guys who take the time to try have no more trouble than girls learning (and like I said before, when learning to get it to travel to your shoulders and neck actually have an advantage over some girls)Brentt 10:02, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Physics
The physics of hooping could also be mentioned in the article (relating it to the concept of angular momentum etc. Richard001 06:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- A friend of mine posted this excerpt from a book on her blog a while ago. Its the only thing related to the physics of hooping I've seen. Not much formulae, and I'm not sure how accurate it is. It seems right on first glance, but I'm not a physicist.:
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"Hula hooping" is a complex skill in which an unstable object, a hoop, is kept in steady oscillation parallel with the ground plane by means of coordinate oscillations of the body. The physical basis of the skill is the conservation of angular momentum. In manipulating the hoop, the performer exerts small but carefully regulated impulses (where impusle equals force x time) by allowing the body to impinge on a small portion of the interior periphery of a short section of the hoop. ---excerpt from Balasubramanium and Turvey (2004) Biological Ckybernetics 90, 176-190.
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- Ideally it should be reference so as not to be OR. I'm sure somebody's done a undergrad thesis on the subject, but a in depth published despcription might be hard to come by. But looking at that quote there it might just be an excerpt of a longer passage. I'll ask my friend and tell you if it would be worth finding the book if your interested in doing that (I'm far to lazy). Brentt 11:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hudsucker Proxy?
I'm surprised there's no reference to the movie The Hudsucker Proxy - anyone mind if I add a bit to trivia? Pjc51 07:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stacey Laliberte
The third image, with the caption "Stacey Laliberte", who is Stacey? Is she a famous performer, or just someone that was posing for the photo? If she is "just someone" her name should not be there JayKeaton 11:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- As of this morning, Viriditas removed the name. If someone can provide notability it can be added back in, but for now, the problem has been solved. PaladinWhite 16:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] unclear what "today" means
In the "Today" section I read: "The past few years have seen the re-emergence of hula hooping." But there is nothing to which to relate either "today" or "the past few years" to. Can somebody knowledgeable please add a date, for orientation purposes? In 20 years..... Thanks --Martha (talk) 04:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 100 millions hula hoops after 1958...
- in two years? En:wiki: After the hoop was released in 1958, Wham-O sold over 100 million in two years.
- in half year? Houston Business Journal: Wham-O sold more than 100 million Hula Hoops in the recreational product's first six months on the market.
