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[edit] Huia pronunciation
Where is the pronunciation for Huia?
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- very roughly HOO-ee-uh. Kahuroa 05:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've added an IPA pronunciation into the intro. I'm no expert on this so feel free to correct if you think its wrong Goldfinger820 (talk) 06:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- corrected. You had y for the u - its definitely not y. Maybe slightly more fronted than English, but closer to a short version of German Kuh than müde. And I wouldn't have thought the h was as strong as in English ahead, more like house. Generally in Māori the usual spelling IS the IPA Kāhuroa (talk) 09:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- yep makes sense cheers Goldfinger820 (talk) 11:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- corrected. You had y for the u - its definitely not y. Maybe slightly more fronted than English, but closer to a short version of German Kuh than müde. And I wouldn't have thought the h was as strong as in English ahead, more like house. Generally in Māori the usual spelling IS the IPA Kāhuroa (talk) 09:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I've added an IPA pronunciation into the intro. I'm no expert on this so feel free to correct if you think its wrong Goldfinger820 (talk) 06:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- very roughly HOO-ee-uh. Kahuroa 05:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Massive blank space below "decline and extinction" section
Can someone please get rid of it? I've had a a go but don't really know how to do it. Kotare 04:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Can't see the space you mean. Maybe it's just something to do with your own computers display or resolution? Kahuroa 05:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion
Righto I just finished a big overhaul of this article, expanded out the description and 4 of the 5 sections about Huia bio. substantially, added section on place in maori culture and expanded info. on decline and efforts at conservation. It would be nice to get some sort of picture/photo for the last section; a photo of dead Huia or of NZ deforestation would be great.. if you know of anything along these lines please sing out. Kotare 09:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
- The first sentence in the Behaviour section I wanted to split as it is a bit long, but wasn't sure which comma to convert to a full stop....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Yep, it was too long, I changed it around and turned it into three sentences, and also made Huia singular instead of plural for consistency. I think there are a quite a few sentences in the new sections that need attention, and sometimes one sentence seems to say much the same as the preceding one. Will take another look later Kahuroa 19:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Kotare, can you tell me more about the 'worn as hats' quoted from MBL? Was that by Māori? Kahuroa 19:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, it was too long, I changed it around and turned it into three sentences, and also made Huia singular instead of plural for consistency. I think there are a quite a few sentences in the new sections that need attention, and sometimes one sentence seems to say much the same as the preceding one. Will take another look later Kahuroa 19:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] To-do list for FAC
I reckon this is gettin' there.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- I introduced a taxonomy and naming section which several other bird FAs have, it still needs something about alternate names and relation to the other wattlebirds etc. I haven't read the paper yet.
[edit] Contradiction?
This sentence at the end: 'The Huia had been little studied by naturalists before it was driven to extinction.' Does this contradict the other statements in the text that the extinction of the Huia was partly caused by naturalists hunting specimens? They didn't study the birds they shot? Kahuroa 20:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Kahuroa, sorry for the late reply. From the material I read while researching to prepare the body of text I contributed to this article earlier this year, the gist I got was that collectors ran around the North Island shooting far too many huia for museums around the world which would stuff the birds - these collectors didn't really give a toss about science they were just looking to make a quick buck. Detailled information about the birds morphology from all these specimens that were shot exists but almost no research was done on their ecology and behaviour. Kotare (talk) 04:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nominating for WP:GAN as a staging point?
This is for all who contributed alot (Kahuroa and Kotare etc.) - do you guys want this nominated at WP:GAN as a good staging point? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Casliber, sorry about the late response I haven't been active on wikipedia for months but am keen to get back into it and it would be great to pick up where I left off close to a year ago now with this article. I think the GA nomination is a great idea, it would be a good incentive to really get into fleshing it out. A collab. would be ideal I think.. At present it's a bit out of proportion as there is lots about Huia and people and little about it's basic biology, I have the HANZAB article on the species here and that itself and the sources it mentions should be of great use for developing this aspect of the article. Stay in touch about this idea, I look forward to developing the article more. Cheers, Kotare (talk) 10:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- From the lead The Huia is notable for the remarkable degree of sexual dimorphism in bill shape. - surely that should be The Huia was.... ? Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
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- That sounds like the 'scientific present in the past' tense, but you're right. Like Kotare I had a bit of a wikibreak a while back but if I can help... (BTW I have also been getting images from flickr for other NZ birds like Kererū and Kākā which I think will help us move those articles along the GA path) No one's taking many pix of huia these days tho Kāhuroa (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)