Talk:Hudson, New York

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[edit] North/South Bay

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Please help clarify the article. Suggestions may be on the talk page. (December 2006)

Is there a full name for "North Bay" and "South Bay"? -- Beland 20:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Hard to find

Is there a reason this page doesn't come up immediately when I search for "hudson, Ny"?????-Laikalynx 02:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lead sentence

Can we get a source for the first city or whatever the claim is? Can we also lose the large unsightly space next to the info box? TIA --Tom 00:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cement fight

Request to Wikipedia editors: Someone keeps inserting false information about the history of the cement plant fight.

Friends of Hudson was the lead group challenging the St. Lawrence Cement project. Linda Mussmann was one of many people opposed to the project. Now that she supports that company, she has falsely claimed that she was the leader of the opposition. Any objective review of the hundreds of news articles about this issue and also the PBS documentary Two Square Miles clearly demonstrates that Mussmann's claim is absurd. Whoever is making these false edits to this page should stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.109 (talk) 16:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Can this whole section be rewritten with relaible source and nuetrality? TIA --Tom 01:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Footnotes are provided with links to the Public Broadcasting System (PBS) description of the cement controversy. Note that this is PBS's website, a neutral third party, not the filmmakers' website. 69.19.14.20 (talk) 14:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abuse and vandalism

This page was stable for a some time, but lately has become the target of abuse and vandalism.

For example, a user at the static IP address 24.105.212.83 has repeatedly undone or overwritten more neutral postings, substituting posts which promote specific businesses or interests, and/or have no place in an encyclopedia entry. This user at 24.105.212.83 has repeatedly:

  • Promoted a specific developer (who happens to have been at the center of several controversies);
  • Promoted a specific art gallery (just one out of a dozen in the city);
  • Inserted easily-debunked revisionist information about the cement plant fight which took up nearly seven years of City history.

The purpose of Wikipedia entries about places like Hudson, New York is not to advertise or supply public relations for specific interests, but to provide readers with reliable information about the history, culture and demographics of such places. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.10.201.175 (talk) 17:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree a 100%. Unfortunately, this will have to be escallated and get admins involved, oh well. --Tom 14:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Dear Tom: Your edits are appreciated. Please note that there is no question locally that Peter Jung and Sam Pratt led the cement fight. If you were to call every newspaper editor in the region, none of them would identify Linda Mussmann as the person "spearheading" that effort. She had no decision-making role at all in any of the three dozen groups which opposed SLC. Whoever keeps inserting her name in this manner is simply vandalizing the site for malicious reasons. Read, for example, this article in The Independent (a twice-weekly newspaper owned by a major national media chain) which identifies Pratt as the "opposition leader," and "executive director of Friends of Hudson." Link—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.10.207.205 (talk • contribs)
Thanks for the citation and your comments. Please sign your posts using four tildes(~)Reagrds, --Tom 00:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Someone keeps adding the following comment: "The style of the buildings Galloway remodelled is commonly referred to as New Hudsonian." I have NEVER heard anyone in Columbia County refer to any buildings as "New Hudsonian." Why is someone so determined to include this fake, self-serving information on the Hudson page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.107 (talk) 05:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Some anonymous users (likely a single user with more than one IP address) have been vandalizing this page in violation of Wikipedia rules. For example, there have been references to a sale of a "mansion" in Hudson. There are no privately-owned mansions in Hudson, only Olana State Historic site in Greenport. Furthermore Columbia County real estate records show that the house in question was not sold shortly after the end of the cement plant controversy, but instead over two years after its end. Both of of the principle leaders of the cement battle have remained involved in Hudson politics and issues after April 2005, and neither of them was paid for more than six years' labor. The same user(s) posting these slanders have also been responsible for other unsourced, inaccurate claims, many of a promotional or partisan nature. Also, the same user(s) have not provided explanations for their edits and continual reassertion of historically revisionist, subjective information, simply reverting responsible edits without comment, sometimes as often as four or five times daily. This page needs moderation and close attention. 74.38.157.126 (talk) 22:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

This page is subject to nearly daily vandalism by an anonymous user who appears to have a personal vendetta against a single (living) individual. The notes above are correct. 69.19.14.15 (talk) 17:02, 24 December 2007 (UTC)