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Angela 06:05, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: A few minutes please

since your first comment was under a different name on the talk page I thought you were two different people and you just saw the discussion and decided to add it. plus I always add the source at the same time I write the passage I am taking from it.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 12:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

As I just mentioned, on your page, I reverted and saved first. Then I added the new cite and, at the same time, a more fleshed out statement from the defense attorney. And I did note beforehand on the talk page that such a cite existed. In fact I noticed my "new" cite has been among the external links for a long time. Huangdi 12:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Madeleine Peyroux

Your edits (of which the only edit summary was: "no promoting commercial/other interests") needed considerably more explanation. It's not at all clear what commercial interests you think were being promoted in the large chunks of text that you removed. Also, youe claim that Got You on My Mind "has not seen wide release" needs a source; it's certainly widely available here, including being sold in HMV, etc. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

My last edit says "commercial release". The record company the musician apparently sued 1) had a contract with Peyroux not to release it and 2) was dismissed from the case. Perhaps a better word can be used. HMV - is that mainly in Britain? Anyways, I made a number of other edits unrelated to the circumstances around this third album/EP, which I hope will not be deleted again. Huangdi 13:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
HMV is a major international record company and retailer, based in the U.K. I've now expanded the article, and rewritten parts of what was already there.

[edit] Liliuokalani

The quote you grabbed from pbs.org regarding the queen's experience governing during 1881 seems like it should be quoted, rather than slightly paraphrased. Although I also have some problems with some of the citations in that pbs.org blurb - the U.S. peacekeepers did not take up hostile positions towards the palace, she did not surrender at gunpoint, and the McKinley Act was in 1890, not two months after her ascension to the throne as stated. It seems like the program being cited wasn't well researched, and was primarily a propoganda vehicle for sovereignty activists working through Vivian Ducat...see http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/bigfiles2/HawnFlagCutUpSouv1898.html for some information regarding other false claims made in that program. We should probably find original sources to reference, rather than getting information 3rd hand.

Also, on the other edits I've reverted, I'm more than happy to work together on making the language acceptable to all sides, but let's work together on it, instead of just competing with edits. I'm sure that together we can help make all of these articles better! --JereKrischel 05:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Mahalo for your concern regarding POV on the liliuokalani page. I think we can successfully work together to put proper citations and bring balance to the article, but I think we'll need to do so one small concern at a time. Would you like to start raising specific concerns on the liliuokalani talk page so we can work on this? Thanks! --JereKrischel 02:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Gladly. I will edit no more than one paragraph at a time. I was simply surprised and dismayed to find that most of my changes from a few months ago had been wiped out without much comment. I put a note on the talk page as well. Huangdi 02:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
If I could make a suggestion for both of us to follow, it would be helpful if instead of paraphrasing something, we simply make quotes with citations. So, for example, instead of making a claim directly (the overthrow was illegal), we can say "person x said the overthrow was illegal" and use a "ref" tag to cite them. Of course, we'll have disagreements as to what is a reliable source and what isn't, but I think we can work those out faster if we get to them directly. I'll try going through and making clear citations as well. --JereKrischel 02:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ken Rosewall article

I have never seen before a relatively complete article about Rosewall's tennis feats and in particular concerning his pro career before the open era in 1968 so when I've seen the embryo of article written in Wikipedia last September, I've decided to entirely rewrite it. So for once there is a valuable (in my mind) article about Rosewall. Consequently I'm not eager to make some clean-up. Nevertheless if this article require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards it has to be changed. But perhaps those modifications will be done by others than me because I haven't the courage to do it. What do you precisely suggest ?

Carlo Colussi 10:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cmt on CFD

Huangdi, your comment on the PETA supporters CFD left me a little confused -- are you saying that Animal rights activists should be kept? Either way, you might want to doublecheck your comment -- there are two verbs in the last sentence that leave it a little confusing. --lquilter 01:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm saying that the category Animal rights activist should be kept. I've amended my comment to indicate that. Huangdi 01:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Black Stallion

Thanks for being my spellchecker :) --Edokter (Talk) 12:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blount Report

Huangdi, thanks for the supportive comments. I certainly agree with you that getting a critical mass of editors interesting in working on Hawaii-related articles is important -- as probably needs no further elaboration, there has been a certain POV pushed by a singularly tenacious editor, and so more minds focused on the material would no doubt help improve the accuracy and fairness therein. Unfortunately, I've got something fairly major on for the next couple of weeks, so won't be able to do a thing until mid-April, but would appreciate been (loosely) in touch as things progress. In the meantime, good luck and aloha. Arjuna 01:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Huangdi, I could use your and others' assistance in attempts by a certain editor to protect the existing POV tone of several Hawaii articles. I merely inserted a POV tag to reflect the current sad state of the articles, but even this minimal step to flag the material as NPOV to outside readers is challenged. It seems that there are basically two people -- including myself (on the moderate side as I am no radical) -- interested in improving the article, and as others have already noted, the other editor's political ideology seems all-too-evident in the tone of the articles. In any event, your help in monitoring -- not getting into further edit wars, which frankly I don't have time for at the moment, or at all actually -- would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers and aloha. Arjuna 09:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Aloha Huangdi. Thanks for your comments, and although I realize there's quite a bit to wade through to get up to speed on the latest, your help would be much appreciated! I'm taking the overthrow article as the main front to get things back to a fair and accurate representation. Cheers, Arjuna 01:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overthrow article (again)

Hi Huangdi, I noticed (and agreed with) your recent edits on the Blount and Morgan Report articles. As you may or not be aware, we have another (new?) "difficult" editor, Yosemitesam25, bent on pushing a very Grassroots Insitute-like POV on the Overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom article. I and certain other editors feel it may either be an old friend or a new one, but suspicious of his/her possible COI issues. See User_talk:Yosemitesam25 for details. Certainly their edits have been highly tendentious, and your help and input would be very welcome. You may wish to refer to the back and forth discussion on the article's talk page. Given where things are (YS seems unamenable to logic if you ask me) it would have more weight if further reverts to his reverts had the consensus of other editors, so again, your help would be appreciated. Cheers and mahalo, Arjuna (talk) 02:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ceuta

Hi Huangdi; When I made my reverse I forgot to put a "?" behind "Vandalism". Sorry. Hope you agree with my "POV" remark. --Floridianed (talk) 20:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)