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huatuo sounds so witchdoctor-ish(: you know the way he predicts that someone will die within ten years and he does, and when they will suffer relapses(: yeah.

Contents 1 Wrong. 2 Fact vs. Fiction 3 Cao Pi not emperor? 4 Hua Tuo's Exercises 5 Cao Cao's headache 6 Totally Fictitious

[edit] Wrong.

Hua Tuo was introduced to Sun Ce by Yu Fan not Dong Xi. --80.227.100.62 05:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fact vs. Fiction

A lot of the article refers to events based on Romance of the Three Kingdoms, rather than history (eg. Guan Yu playing Go, Cao Cao executing Hua Tuo). I think that we need to clarify in the article what is history and what is fiction. --theorb 11:25 April 15 2006

[edit] Cao Pi not emperor?

Makes you wonder. If Cao Cao had just let Hua Tuo live, would he himself have lived? I'm sure you've all thought this question, but it does make you think. Cao Wei 01:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hua Tuo's Exercises

I don't know much about these myself but a book I'm reading mentions that he recorded a set of exercises based upon the movements of five animals (tiger, deer, bear, monkey and stork). The relevance is that the book claims that this is a publicized proof that martial arts existed in China prior to Bodhidharma's arrival. I hope to find out more about this - if I do perhaps I'll add something myself.

P.S. The book is The FIghting Arts by Howard Reid and Michael Croucher

But Hua Tuo's exercises weren't martial in nature. Besides, there's plenty of proof that martial arts existed in China prior to Bodhidharma—Shuai Chiao, Sun Bin Chuan, et al. The Taisho Tripitaka, a primary source, even notes that Seng Chou, a Shaolin monk who predates Bodhidharma, was known for his skill with the tin staff.

And is The Fighting Arts even still in print? JFD 21:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure it is - but it's certainly an interesting read - wouldn't mind finding the TV series either. Thanks for your updates.

[edit] Cao Cao's headache

Are you people sure that it's not another of Lua Guanzhong fabrication that Cao Cao ordered his death? Seemed pretty far-fetched, Romance of Three Kingdoms villainize Cao Cao in every opportunity. And how can a doctor identify a brain tumor without x-ray machine? Suredeath 06:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Totally Fictitious

A famouse Chinese historian, Chen Yinke 陳寅恪, pointed out that all those medical miracles performed by Hua Tuo, accoding to the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, were actually from Indian Buddhism bibles. Even Hua Tuo's name gives away a hint: Hua means Chinese, and Tuo means buddhism monk. There is not a questions that which part of what Hua Tuo did was real and which was fictitious -- all are fictitious, period. However, there might be a scholar called Hua Tuo, who just did not perform any medical miracle.--Mongol 00:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I dont know about whether or not Hua Tuo existed, but if i remember my history, Cao Cao outlived Guan Yu, though he was diagnosed and died shortly afterward. Furthermore, to the person above, a person can diagnose many brain problems by mental state and eye dilation in certain lights.

69.221.248.122 23:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Hua Tuo is a historical person. He is recorded in the Sanguozhi, however most people mix up his fictional account with his historical account. In fact, this article's historical account is a part of the fictional account in the Sanguo Yanyi. Hua Tuo was not executed because Cao Cao was paranoid, he was executed because he refused to treat Cao Cao. And Hua Tuo was long dead even before Guan Yu led his assault on Fancheng (although there was a doctor that treated Guan Yu's wound, but he was not named). I'll fix this article up a bit. (whipsandchains 17:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC))