Talk:Howa Type 64

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I'm not so sure it was a good idea to move this article since no one who actually uses the Type-64 (or the Type-89, for that matter) refers to it with the name of the company in front of it. There were also a number of double redirects that were ignored during the move - I have corrected them to point directly to this article. Choeki 03:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

The Japanese page has been edited to match the current English version of the page (deletion of rumors and spurious arguments between people with actual experience with the Type-64 and "military fanboys"). However, in regard to the current English page, I am personally dubious about the references to the SAT and the rifle since I was under the impression that the SAT has access to the HK PSG-1 and MSG-90, along with a variety of accurized bolt-action rifles for sharpshooting/countersniper roles. Choeki 15:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

>I also doubt that the SAT uses it. I noticed in a Japanese newscast that the footage showed alot of H&K weapons, mostly MP5s and USPs, and what looked like an M700 as their sniper rifle. (Sekiryu 16:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC))

There is a significant problem with this article regarding citations due to the fact that the majority of information is in Japanese only from both official and unofficial/commercial sources. It is possible to cite relevant information to (for example) Japanese Self-Defense Force enthusiast magazines, but then again, much of the current information was translated from the Japanese article. Is it possible to use the Japanese Wikipedia entry for citation? Apparently the Japanese article is a result of original research that is not documented in any officially published media.Choeki 13:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

A Wikipedia article can never be cited as a source for anything in Wikipedia. While we would prefer sources for the English WP to be in English, if there are none then cite the Japanese language sources. More sources = good, fewer sources = bad. K1ng l0v3 14:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Here is the relevant section of WP:V: "

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Cheers. K1ng l0v3 16:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)