Talk:Hoveround
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Note: I moved the following two discussions here from Talk:Tom Kruse, as they relate specifically to the inventor and not to the disambiguation page. -- Kicking222 18:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article needs work
I did a quick cleanup edit here but this article needs more detail and relevancy. The commercial bit seems just like superficial trivia. Wikipedia isn't the repository of every bit of trivial detail. JuanOso 16:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- No, but he appears in the advert himself, so it's relevant and therefore a notable inclusion. 152.163.101.9 21:07, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. JuanOso 03:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- You may dissagree, but why?. You claim it's "superficial trivia". What nonsence, it's not like someone is repoting on what he ate for Breakfast last tuseday. Look at it like this, if a pop star, a movie star, sports star or Radio DJ makes a commerical it is included in the article and noone says anything, as it is relevant to that person, but someone who invents something and is in a commerical and gets it mentioned and someone gets their knickers in a twist. Why bother? Oh well, there's always one .... 69.204.6.21 17:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps before flinging insults -- and from an anonyous account -- you might want to familiarize yourself more with what Wikipedia is and isn't. Did you read the link as to what is and is not relevant for Wikipedia? Mr. Kruse is not a popstar or a moviestar or sports star. So that affects the relevancy. You might also find your claims will bear more weight if you create and use an account. Otherwise, one might suspect you were simply spamming for the company in question. JuanOso 01:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- you spelled anonymous wrong. words make spelled incorrectly tend to make people take you less seriously...just saying.Bridge 26 09:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps before flinging insults -- and from an anonyous account -- you might want to familiarize yourself more with what Wikipedia is and isn't. Did you read the link as to what is and is not relevant for Wikipedia? Mr. Kruse is not a popstar or a moviestar or sports star. So that affects the relevancy. You might also find your claims will bear more weight if you create and use an account. Otherwise, one might suspect you were simply spamming for the company in question. JuanOso 01:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- You may dissagree, but why?. You claim it's "superficial trivia". What nonsence, it's not like someone is repoting on what he ate for Breakfast last tuseday. Look at it like this, if a pop star, a movie star, sports star or Radio DJ makes a commerical it is included in the article and noone says anything, as it is relevant to that person, but someone who invents something and is in a commerical and gets it mentioned and someone gets their knickers in a twist. Why bother? Oh well, there's always one .... 69.204.6.21 17:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. JuanOso 03:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't think the company in question needs any spamming from me when they are doing so well (i.e a nation wide TV campaign will reach much more people than will read this article in question). Oh and by the way, you're comment about me being "anonyous" (and you're one to talk about spelling) are irrelvant, this is the internet and we are all anon, even those with an account. Wikipedia allowes users without an account to edit, therefore let it lie and accept it, if I was on the pay roll of Mr. Kruse I could easily make an account, say my name was "Jerry Danson" and you'd be none the wiser. Also, Kruse may not be a star but the relvancy is NOT cut down as this is still an article about the man and it is just as relevant to him as a commerical for Oreo's using "The Twist" would be for Chubby Checker.69.204.6.21 11:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unsubstantiated statement removed
The following statement was inserted in the article: According to Kruse "Hoveround Corporation is one of the fastest growing and successful companies in the US". This needs to be sourced (and the typo corrected). Until that time, I have removed it as POV spamming. JuanOso 01:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
You want a source, ok pal, you've got one! My goodness, all this fuss over a commerical and an statement that is hardly slanderlous in anyway, Why don't you go around Wikipedia and ask for a source for every line of information on the site? That should keep you busy! 69.204.6.21 11:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Today I removed the following unsubstantiated parenthetical addition: (who are actually paid actors pretending to need the scooters). I thought about just marking it with the "[citation needed]" tag, but according to the Wiki citation page, since it could possibly be considered defamatory if not inflammatory, I thought it might be better here. 66.32.15.193 16:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Commercial?
Unless this article is expanded, I see it as a "vanity" or commercial page. --DangApricot 20:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's not. It should stay. Why don't you do reaserch and expand it if you care so much. That is what Wikipedia is about, not moaning, but getting on with the edits. 74.65.39.59 16:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Futhermore if this was a commerical page, it would be about the product itself (perfect excuse to list features, price, etc) not about it's inventor). 74.65.39.59 16:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Just so everyone knows, Hoveround is not "the fastest growing company". As a matter of fact, they have eliminated about 45% of their employees since Nov 2006 and continue to downsize. I just wanted to let everyone know that one of the main things that Hoveround touts is their "Made in the USA" label. The VSI joystick is made in China as are the ShihLin direct drive motors used on all Hoveround models. The rims, tires and casters are all manufactured in China too. The Hoveround seat is made in China (including the upholstery)None of the parts used on any of the Hoveround models is made in the USA. Final assembly of the parts takes place in Florida. Also, Hoveround recently changed their business model. Previous to this change the company performed seating evaluations of their clients in the clients home to justify medical necessity, ensure user competency and environmental access, etc. Now Hoveround only has phone contact with over 90 % of their clients before delivery of the product! This is something that should certainly draw the attention of Medicare as Medicare accounts for over 85% of Hoverounds total business annually. There are many changes currently taking place in the mobility industry. Hoveround seems to be moving away from their motto of "doing the right thing" by every client in an effort to stay afloat in the industry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Probie27 (talk • contribs) 00:14, August 20, 2007 (UTC).