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[edit] Talk page archiving

Your attempt to archive your talk page made it end up in the main namespace. I've taken the liberty of undoing that and properly archiving it. Hope that's allright with you. Lupo 22:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I admit I'm an imbecile at this Wiki stuff, but one can't know everything, can one? ;-) I appreciate it. Hotcop2 (talk) 23:17, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Dude, did something I do screw up your page? Your entire history is, like gone. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 23:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm just a figment of Wikination. Probably something I did screwed it up, but what the hay. Well, at least we're here now. Hotcop2 (talk) 23:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The history of this page is not "gone", it's over at User talk:Hotcop2/Archive 1. That's normal when a talk page gets archived using a move. Lupo 06:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

This account has been blocked for 48 hours as a probable sockpuppet of Sixstring1965 (talk · contribs). A checkuser will be requested. This account has a history of image copyright violations and biography of living person editing that is a serious cause for concern. See also Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mister ricochet. - Jehochman Talk 00:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Update: I have decided to unblock this account and wait for the checkuser results, just in case this is an innocent user who has unknowingly been involved in the editing pattern of a banned user. Please be careful to follow Wikipedia's image use policy, and to follow biography of living persons policy. - Jehochman Talk 00:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hotcop2, if you need help with the image uploads, I will do my best to help you fix them. Please post any questions here or on my talk page. - Jehochman Talk 01:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi J -- I am blocked from your page, so I'll have to ask you here. I had previously uploaded a photo of May Pang with John Lennon, which I received from Ms. Pang to put on Wiki. I didn't take that photo, but I thought it was the best for her page. When the great "deletion" tag was put on it (because, I suspect it was originally uploaded by Sixstring) I removed it myself and put up a photo that I took of her, which isn't quite as interesting, but I figure would have no problem since it was mine -- and throught I tagged correctly. Same on the Dave Winfield page -- this is a photo I took, I uploaded and thought I tagged correct for Wiki to use.

As for Victor Willis, I work with him as well and got all the permissions and sent them everywhere, but it too was called for deletion because Sixsting originally uploaded it for me. R Baley is handling that one for me, having made direct contact and getting it tagged correctly.

So, now I have my two photos of Pang and Winfield that I'd like to share with Wiki and give full consent and all the tags but obviously I'm still doing something wrong. If you could tell me how to do it, I'd be grateful. Hotcop2 (talk) 01:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

First, I will remove the deletion tags on the assumption that the situation is as you say. We need to get somebody with more expertise on images to help explain how to document the situation correctly. I think you should perhaps re-upload the photos and select "own work" and choose a free license. Be sure not to put © in the description as that is a red flag, assuming of course that you own the copyright yourself. You should now be able to post to any Wikipedia page as you are unblocked. - Jehochman Talk 01:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Like I said, I thought I hit all the right tags. I only put the copyrightin because I was trying to show it was mine and Wiki can have it. No good deed goes punished, i guess :-) Hotcop2 (talk) 01:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you edit those image pages to remove the copyright notice? That will help. I am very sorry for any trouble. - Jehochman Talk 01:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
No, please don't. The © is not a red flag! Keep it. The red flag in this case was a combination of several things:
  • Re-upload of images previously deleted as copyvios, and that were previously uploaded by this Sixstring character, with dubious, differing, and invalid license claims.
  • Claims of permissions, but no OTRS ticket number on the image description pages.
  • A permission that turned out to be "wikipedia-only", for use in a particular article (the Bob Gruen photo of John Lennon), which naturally raised suspicions that the permissions for the other images might be equally restricted. (E. g. the permission for commons:Image:Victor Willis.jpg is apparently not good enough.)
But the © has nothing to do with it. Images licensed under a free license are still copyrighted, so placing both a © and a free license is perfectly ok. However, Wikipedia accepts only images under free licenses (GFDL, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or placed into the public domain by the author, or equivalent). If there are any conditions attached (no derivatives, no commercial uses, use only on wikipedia or only in a specific article, don't copy to commons, etc.), then the image is not free and may be used at the utmost under a "fair use" claim here at the English Wikipedia.
If you've got a permission from someone to license their image under a free license, forward this permission to permissions-en@wikimedia.org or to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, if the original upload of the image is at the commons. Mention the fact that a permission has been forwarded on the image page (at the commons, one can use the template "OTRS pending" to do so). Sometimes, OTRS has a large backlog. Lupo 10:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Re:". . .the permission for commons:Image:Victor Willis.jpg is apparently not good enough." The Declaration of Consent form (which I sent) was modified from the original, in an incompatible way. R. Baley (talk) 10:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Checkuser

The checkuser result came back "unrelated". If you like, I can add a note to your block log to say that the block was an error. This may help prevent future issues. - Jehochman Talk 01:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again. Whatever you think will keep me from having this monthly stroke.  ;-) Hotcop2 (talk) 01:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Lol. that seems like a great idea, Jhochman. As well, you could take it in stride and create a userbox that stipulates that you are not a sock of SixString1965. :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 01:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Done. I will think about what else I can do to help you. - Jehochman Talk 01:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for being speedy and keeping an open mind, J. R. Baley (talk) 01:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Btw, the Victor Willis photo has been uploaded to Commons (link), but I'm still waiting for someone from OTRS to add the ticket number. R. Baley (talk) 01:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you everyone. I'm not Rappaport, nor Sixstring ;-) Hotcop2 (talk) 01:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, and don't you forget it! :) --andreasegde (talk) 09:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Don't forget about me, too, Andreasegde. ;-) Had the same problem meself, with that bugger Sixstring. He's a real...for the sake of decency, I won't say it. "Something involving genatalia and shoe polish", a quote from a decent movie. :) Kodster (Willis) (Look what I can do) 23:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May

After the Lennon aticle has got a GA (should take a couple of weeks) it would be nice to get May's article up to GA. This is funny, but she's probably the only article I would actually like to work on, because she seems so positive. (Doing the Fabs and their families/assistants has not been easy, as there were a lot of painful things one has to read and then put in... ) --andreasegde (talk) 09:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

BTW, it has been interesting to read how difficult it is to actually upload a photograph that has been released/allowed to be used. Wiki keeps deleting fair-use images, but makes it difficult when a person actually has clearance. (Maybe it happens so seldom that they can hardly believe it!) --andreasegde (talk) 14:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Arcayne and I totally redid the May article, which was nothing more than a slanderizing book review. I'll be happy to work with you on improving it. Hotcop2 (talk) 16:32, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm still blocked until tomorrow, so I'll add some "citations" when the block is lifted. Hotcop2 (talk) 22:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

It's a disgrace. Anybody with half a brain should be able to see the massive difference in the writing style between you and the others (which always proves the point). I am looking forward to working on May's article. --Sherlock Watson and his friend, Mr. Holmes (talk) 02:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you A. I kinda thought that was the most insulting part too LOL. Hotcop2 (talk) 02:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I totally missed this latest drama - sorry I wasn't here to lend my testimony in support, Hot. Tvoz |talk 06:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Life's too short. Consider it a blessing ;-) We know you were there in spirit. Hotcop2 (talk) 17:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Co-operation on Lennon

This is good. I worked on McCartney's with two or three other editors, and I had a great time. Since then I have been skulking in articles about various Beatles' relations and assistants on my lonesome. It's good to be back in the land of the living. :) --andreasegde (talk) 20:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Tis the season. Hotcop2 (talk) 20:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Christmas

Arcayne (cast a spell) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Don't overdose on cranberry sauce or cookies!

Spread the Holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Arcayne/ECard}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

- Arcayne (cast a spell) 16:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Awwww. Wish I knew how to do that ;-) Same to, yours and everyone's. Hotcop2 (talk) 16:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


Happy Christmas!! sixstring1965 (talk) 17:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Happy Christmas!! sixstring1965 (talk) 17:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


Sixstring1965 (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Don't overdose on cranberry sauce or cookies!

[edit] Improving John Lennon article

Right now I have activated it so you can mail me. I have no special knowledge about John Lennon except that I have read some of his biographies - of them I enjoyed the most a memoir book by Fred Seaman called The Last Days of John Lennon. So then I am not great fan of Yoko's friends such Sam Havadtoy and Sam Green and all those Yoko's fortune tellers. I also don't feel that Elliot Mintz tells the whole truth about John Lennon. --Bluewind (talk) 10:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Are you on this photo? :) --andreasegde (talk) 21:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

No, but I took the first photo on the left of May, Nancy Andrews, Chris O'Dell and Pattie Boyd Harrison Clapton ;-) Hotcop2 (talk) 22:32, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

I took out the old one and uploaded and put in the new one. You know which one I'm talking about, so I won't say which one is the one I've done. If anyone else reads this and understands what I'm on about, they'll get 10 points and a gold star. :) --andreasegde (talk) 03:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

BTW, Is that you, or was it someone else that sent me the mail? --andreasegde (talk) 07:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's me. I think someone else will know what you're talking about because it wasn't accidentally put there lol. Hotcop2 (talk) 14:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photo question

Hi Hotcop, I was wondering if there was going to be anything further with respect to the Victor Willis image uploaded at commons? It still has insufficient permission to use. . .feel free to email me if you want. Thanks, R. Baley (talk) 17:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nice

Great to see you back, and (hopefully) feeling well. Good work on the references for John (some of the language makes me feel a bit uneasy, though). I am waiting for a GA review for May. I know it's weird to refer to May as "Pang" all the time, but that's how the cookie crumbles, as you might say. :) --andreasegde (talk) 19:07, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks A. Still not feeling well, but the wiki must go on ;-) Hotcop2 (talk) 22:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Beatles Newsletter

I am a member of the Beatles WikiProject, and would like the newsletter. How do I get it? Basketball110 22:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I never heard of the newsletter. Ask Andrea... and when you find out, please let me know ;-) Hotcop2 (talk) 22:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

It was stopped quite awhile ago. A pity, but there you go. Maybe it could be restarted? Ask kingboyk ('cos he's the man to talk to). --andreasegde (talk) 18:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Leave a note on this page. --andreasegde (talk) 18:51, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW, it's Andreas/Andrew/Egde/the boring one, Hotcop... :)) --andreasegde (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May Pang

She now has a GA review. There are not many problems, and I am sure that she will pass, with a little bit of work. :) --andreasegde (talk) 18:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

sounds like a mission ;-) hopefully i'll get myself in gear soon and tackle JL Hotcop2 (talk) 22:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I am starting on May now (I hope she doesn't mind me saying that :) Thanks for the book references. --andreasegde (talk) 15:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I have cleaned it as much as I can, and I think it reads well, and will soon get a GA rating. (I don't really know why I do these GA articles, because they're so demanding - it's the adrenalin...)--andreasegde (talk) 17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I have totally cleaned May's article, and I expect a reply from the reviewer soon. --andreasegde (talk) 17:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks great A. This is the only thing that's made me feel better lol. Hotcop2 (talk) 23:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm a poet but I don't know it, so here we go... May, is now a GA, best regards from A. --andreasegde (talk) 16:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

you're a laureate and a scholar, a ;-) Hotcop2 (talk) 22:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:VPHits.jpg

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:VPHits.JPG)

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I said I couldn't do do it, but nobody wanted wanted to help. Hotcop2 (talk) 15:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:VPHits.jpg)

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I have no other unlicensed photos. Hotcop2 (talk) 15:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lennon (who else?)

When he gets his GA, you will get the Barnstar. BTW, you will be only the second person (after 'Kodster', recently) since September 2006 (McCartney) to take a Beatles' article through a GA. (The other person inbetween shall remain nameless...:) But... (as always) I have to make some points (don't worry, it's all positive)

  • It's good enough as it is to get a GA - don't worry about putting more in - it's polishing time. They're only bothered about the major points of his life, not minor details. They jump on the minor details like below:
  • There are enough references, but we probably missed one or two here or there.
  • Format dates: "on March 20, 1969", as 20 March 1969. One or two need doing, but not years by themselves; 1972 should be 1972.
  • Format references (books and internet) so they look all the same. This is boring work, but it has to be done, as it will be noticed. (I will help as well.)
  • Watch out for POV like "the best album they ever made", or anything remotely similar, as this will be noticed as well.
  • When someone reviews it, don't get into a talking match about whether you agree or disagree, just do it - it can be changed (as a style issue) later.
  • Which kind of Barnstar would you like? :)

PS, Good stuff defending May. They really do want to whitewash her, don't they? Scaredy-cats, who are all afraid of Miss Ono, no doubt. Have fun.--andreasegde (talk) 18:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I enjoy working with you (especially on the GAs) so if you ever need me to look something "Beatle" over, let me know. I don't know what a barnstar is, duh, so I leave it up to you ;-) Hotcop2 (talk) 19:11, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I very gladly give this Barnstar to Hotcop2, because she has worked really hard (despite her own personal physical pain, but she ignored it anyway and still carried on). In my opinion, "Above and Beyond the Call of Duty" for her work on the May Pang (GA) and John Lennon (GA) articles is the correct thing to say. She is to be truly respected.--andreasegde (talk) 00:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)