Talk:Hot Rats

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[edit] Direct contradiction

"Although Zappa was a Californian, he did not use drugs and actually disdained the psychedelic and tie-dyed, jam-band mentality of the era. The colorful, psychedelic aura of the late sixties is apparent in the graphic design and photography of Hot Rats."

This seems like quite the non-sequitur to me. Ideas anyone? W guice 17:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

He didn't approve of the hippy movement, but I'm almost certain he had nothing against psychedelia, just the drugs associated with the movement. In fact, I think Zappa's works are some of the best psychedelic music available (using the generic definition of the term, not trying to place his works in that genre). Someone made a change but I think I'm going to tag it as citatation needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marnues (talk • contribs) 22:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Capitals in song titles

(Section copied/moved from talk pages) Hi there. I noticed that you made a few edits to the Frank Zappa Hot Rats article. I checked a few sources and it turns out that the track titles are all capitals, so I undid some of your changes. Cheers, DVdm (talk) 14:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

First of all, "the"/"of"/"en" and any other conjunction shouldn't be capitalized. It is grammaticaly wrong and in every reliable source I've found it is written without capital letters (AMG, for example). By capitalizing all the words you've also broken the link to Willie the Pimp article. --~Magnolia Fen (talk) 14:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I am aware of the standard rules on album capitalisation, but don't you think that what is actually brought out by the record company is the thing that counts, independently of grammatical rules?

Other than that, I don't think that AMG ("THE ALLMUSIC BLOG") can be called upon as a reliable source. See for instance: "... blogs are largely not acceptable as sources."

Finally, broken links can be fixed of course. Cheers, DVdm (talk) 14:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

AMG is not a blog at all... as the name suggests it is a guide. They've recently added a blog that is completely seperate from the reviews (and the site itself is considered reliable and a professional reviews site). The information was taken from the review, not any sort of blog. By the way, even if the album art spelled every word with wrong capitalization, it doesn't mean that it should be written in this form in the article (as the capitalization may have been purely for aesthetical reasons). --~Magnolia Fen (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If AMG is not a blog at all, then perhaps you could ask them to remove the top line appearing on all their pages:

"You know your music - so do we. THE ALLMUSIC BLOG".

Just have a look at your AMG link ;-).

Further, I wouldn't label the 'sec' tracklist on the vinyl and on the CD disc as "album art", but as "album information".

But then again, it isn't such a big issue anyway. We both like Hot Rats, so life is okay, right? Cheers and happy Capital Hunting! - DVdm (talk) 17:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If you'll take a second look you'll see that it is actualy an advert for the blog (which even has a different domain name than the review pages), not a headline. --~Magnolia Fen (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)