Talk:Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

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Anyone know the R&B stats? I know Janet Jackson has like a TON of #1 R&B hits, Aretha Franklin too, but I don't know exact stats.

Janet Jackson has fifteen #1's. I wish people would stop changing it to sixteen, as Billboard does NOT give her chart credit for her appearance on Herb Alpert's "Diamonds".

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[edit] #1's

Billboard does so credit "Diamonds" [1][2] Purchase Chart stars from Billboard and you will see! [3] Watley54 14:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Not on the original charts, they don't. I have the magazines with me right here. Futhermore, in the Billboard Book of Number One R&B Hits, she does not receive credit. And if you check out any Billboard article about this week's chart, they state explicitly that she has fifteen. Fred Bronson also credits her with fifteen in this week's Chart Beat Chat:

WHAT SHE'S DONE FOR US LATELY: Janet Jackson scores her 15th chart-topper on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart as "Call On Me" (Virgin) rises 7-1. It's the first No. 1 on this chart for Jackson in over five years, since "All for You" reigned for two weeks in April 2001. That's the longest gap between No. 1s for Janet in her career. Her longest break until this week was the three years and nine months between "Any Time, Any Place"/"And On and On" in 1994 and "I Get Lonely" in 1998.

"Call on Me" is the fourth No. 1 for Nelly. Three of those four hits have been collaborations. Here is a summary of Janet Jackson's chart-toppers, followed by a list of Nelly's No. 1s.

JANET JACKSON:

"What Have You Done for Me Lately," two weeks (1986) "Nasty," two weeks (1986) "Control," one week (1987) "Let's Wait Awhile," one week (1987) "The Pleasure Principle," one week (1987) "Miss You Much," two weeks (1989) "Rhythm Nation," one week (1990) "Escapade," one week (1990) "The Best Things in Life Are Free," one week (1992) [Luther Vandross & Janet Jackson with BBD and Ralph Tresvant] "That's the Way Love Goes," four weeks (1993) "Any Time, Any Place" / "And On and On," 10 weeks (1994) "I Get Lonely," two weeks (1998) "What's It Gonna Be?!" one week (1999) [Busta Rhymes featuring Janet] "All for You," two weeks (2001) "Call on Me," one week to date (2006) [Janet & Nelly]

[edit] According to

The August 26, 2006 issue of Billboard Magazine, she had 15 #1 R&B hits, as of today she has 16.

A month before Janet Jackson's "20 Y.O" hits stores, the 11-9 flight of the albums lead single ties her for the most top 10s since the Nielsen Music era of the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop songs began in 1992. "Call on Me" is the superstars 30th top 10 matching R. Kelly's Nielsen-era tally.

In that period. Jackson's 15 chart-toppers (including a streak of seven consecutive No.1's) is superior. Kelly takes a back seat with 11. But both have a long way to catch up to the 64 year olds all time records. James Brown leads with 58 top 10s, and Aretha Franklin has the most No.1's with 20.


Image:Janet Billboard.jpg
15 #'1s

The streak of seven #1's would be

  1. Control
  2. Let's Wait Awhile
  3. Diamonds
  4. The Pleasure Priciple
  5. Miss You Much
  6. Rhythm Nation
  7. Escapade

Watley54 13:49, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] According to...

According to Virgin Records, which penned the "30 Top 10 Hits" press release. A press release, I might add, that was riddled with errors (such as "Again" and "If" going to #1 on the R&B charts). It sounds like whoever wrote that blurb simply took what was in the press release and adapted it to the blurb (the streak of 7 #1's claimed in the press release apparently took place in the 1990's (!) if we are to believe Virgin Records). Is it not a coincidence that all the R. Kelly stats mentioned were also mentioned in the press release, which was written weeks ago when Call On Me first became a Top 10 record?

Multiple news articles AND books from Billboard state otherwise. She also was NOT credited on the original charts. I would believe the original magazines, Fred Bronson and Billboard research staff over that blurb, personally. In The Billboard Book of #1 R&B Hits, they state explicitly that she did NOT have a streak of 7 consecutive #1's, because she did NOT receive credit for Diamonds.

Articles written by Fred Bronson and Billboard News Staff AFTER Call On Me reached #1 give the number as FIFTEEN, and name Call On Me as her fifteenth #1 R&B hit.


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[edit] .... According to

The actual MAGAZINE! She has 16. Watley54 16:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The ACTUAL MAGAZINE

states that COM is her FIFTEENTH #1 R&B hit in no less that 2 articles this week. So.........?

[edit] Fact is

It's not my fault. The magazine said weeks ago before she hit #1 she had already topped the chart 15 times, the Billboard Chart stars which you can purchase from Billboard.com also says and gives her credit for Diamonds, it also says pre-Call On Me, she has had 15 #1's. Not just that, she is credited on the singles cover. [4] Herb Alpert with lead vocals from Janet Jackson and Lisa Keith. How can she not get credit, she is singing LEAD vocals. Watley54 13:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chronology of chart names

This chart has went by a number of different titles since it started back in 1942. Does anybody have a list of the names it went by and when? Yorkshiresky 13:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just wondering

Who keeps putting Aaliyah up on the list. I got love for her and all but to my knowledge she only had 2 #1 R&B hits, I've deleted because she doesnt have six and everytime i check someone puts her back on the list this time with her having 5. Am I missing something did she hit #1 3 more time when I wasn't aware just wondering.

[edit] Janet has officially had 16 #1s

According to "Ask Billboard", "Diamonds" was credited to Janet after it hit #1. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/ask_bb/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003695730

"The 1987 Herb Alpert single "Diamonds," which featured Jackson's vocals, was a hit on both the Hot 100 and the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. However, on the Hot 100 chart, Alpert was the only artist to receive credit. To further complicate matters, on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, "Diamonds" was initially only credited to Alpert, though that changed once "Diamonds" hit No. 1 on the R&B list. That week, the artist credit switched to "Herb Alpert featuring Janet Jackson" ¬ but only on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. So, officially, "Diamonds" is a Jackson single ¬ but only on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. Not on The Billboard Hot 100."

--Thankyoubaby (talk) 07:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)