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[edit] Electrical and Information

Do we really need to know about the electrical substations at the National Institutes of Health, or the carrying capacity of pneumatic tubes? If it isn't completely general (about hospitals), surely it doesn't belong in this article? GBM (talk) 17:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Muslim Hospitals vs. Greek Hospitals?

In the history section under the subtitle "Medieval Arabia," the article states, "Unlike in Greek temples to healing gods, the clerics working in these facilities employed scientific methodology far beyond that of their contemporaries in their treatment of patients." From the 8th to the 12th century, Greeks were throughly Christian and no longer pagan. They did not worship the ancient Greek gods nor did they bring their sick to the ancient pagan temples to be healed by their ancient gods. This is just very anachronistic and poor history. It mistakenly describes Christian Greece in a way that is 400 to 800 years off (if we take the 800 to 1200 time frame). Further, it seems culturally biased. It strikes me as coming from someone with pride in "Medieval Arab" and/or Turkish culture. So, I will remove it soon, if i don't see any objections. (BTW-- I am not Greek and have no ethnic bias here, it is just bad history and seems biased).

[edit] The last sentence of this article:

"Hospitals are nowadays staffed by professional physicians, surgeons and nurses, whereas in history, this work was usually done by the founding religious orders or by volunteers with itchy balls" is confusing. What is meant by "volunteers with itchy balls?" Is this something added by vandals? 152.132.10.128 14:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

I thought hospital was a latin word, from which hospitality and host derive. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.140.6.2 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 13 Jul 2007 (UTC)

Someone has added "hoSPITals" are called such because people like to spit in them. Vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.36.161 (talk) 15:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Reverted. — ¾-10 00:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Do we really need redundant lists of hospitals?

It is ridiculous to me that we have two lists of hospitals, one on this page and one in the List of hospitals article.

I think the better solution would be to delete the list on this page and to move the List of hospitals link up so that it is the first link following the article, so that people who want to add their favorite hospital can go there instead.

Last time I checked, Wikipedia is not supposed to be a Web directory — that's the Open Directory's job! --Coolcaesar 30 June 2005 21:05 (UTC)

[edit] List of US hospitals

I am removing the following list of American hospitals from the article. As noted by Coolcaesar above, there are lists of hospitals elsewhere. Uppland 00:32, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

The United States is home to some of the most technologically advanced hospitals in the world that have patients come from all over to have special procedures or operations. Some of these include:

Thanks for following up on this. I have been too busy with work at the law firm and with working on Lawyer to follow up on this issue. --Coolcaesar 07:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

All the ratings about hospitals were made by tecnitians .But nobody knows the patients opinion . I would like to obtain de vote of the patients to cualified the American hospitals .Dr Hirose ----

[edit] Guenter Risse, historian of hospitals

I hope some points in this book can incorporated in the future. I have not read the book but read about it in How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization by Thomas Woods. Guenter's book can be found here. Mending Bodies, Saving Souls. It is a highly praised book. Marax 07:31, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of hospitals

I disagree with having the sentence "Sri Lankans are perhaps responsible for introducing the concept of dedicated hospitals". Because at this point it's a matter of semantics. Because, what is the concept? A place solely for people to bring a sick person for healing? We know this existed elsewhere (Asklepions). A place for effective medical care (what's the standard for this)? How about clearly delineating the concept? Because it has religious bias does not make it less of a hospital (many hospitals today have religious saints' names). In fact even the ancient hospital at Mihintale, sri lanka is next to a monastery. It's known 4th century BC physician Hippocrates (who is really famous for some of his secular medical works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates ) got his training at the Asklepion of Kos by Herodicus where people brought their sick for healing. See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine_in_Ancient_Greece

If you google "the oldest hospital in the world" (include the quotes).. you will find people calling certain asklepions that. Are we to ignore that?

One other point .. the 6th century AD text "Mahavamsa" in the translation at lakdiva.org states: "On the further side of Jotiya's house and on this side of the Gamani tank he likewise built a monastery for wandering meudicLnt monks, and a dwelling for the ajivakas and a residence for the brahmans, and in this place and that he built a lying-in shelter and a hall for those recovering from sickness. "

What types of physicians treated the patients? Was physician treatment later introduced?

[edit] Semi-protect?

This page has been blanked 17 times in the past 2 days by anonymous IPs. Might it be worth putting semi-protection on it for a while to prevent further abuse? Lurlock 02:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hôtel-Dieu de Québec

Hi. I added the Hôtel-Dieu de Québec to the Modern History section because its (French) website says it was the first hospital in North America. While I think that notable and belongs somewhere, I now wonder if it is in the appropriate position. The positioning in the paragraph would suggest it as an example of a more modern, secular hospital. I can't say that it was. I flag it for someone with more experience in this area. Canuckle 23:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

  • I resolved it by adding North America to the section above it. Canuckle 22:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)