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Reviewed version: September 21, 2006

how are breed of quarter horses determined

Quarter Horses are registered by the American Quarter Horse Association, or related organizations in other countries. The Wikipedia Article American quarter horse describes what they look like and has more info

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[edit] Embryo Transfer

I am finding it difficult to find any articles in english in regard to the viable freezing of equine embryos for transfer. can you help?

Thanks

Try the web sites for various Veterinary colleges. The colleges of veterinary medicine at Cornell University, Colorado State University (has reporductive sciences specialty there), University of Florida, Washington State University, Iowa State University, and University of California-Davis all have good web sites with many articles about veterinary topics, and are usually searchable.

[edit] Failed GA nomination

I failed this article simply because there is only a single reference, which results in the article failing criteria 2a of WP:WIAGA. Some P. Erson 20:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Foaling

I think that it would be good if someone with experience in breeding horses would provide a section on the signs that the mare is soon going to foal. Maybe also include in the foaling section a list of common problems during or after foaling. Eventer

[edit] Trying for footnotes, anyone?

Hi gang, having survived the process of getting horses in warfare and Arabian horse passed as good articles, and now that I'm starting to review other articles for GA status myself, I'd like to see if those who have worked on this article would like to try for GA status again? To do so, we basically need FOOTNOTES, footnotes, and more footnotes. We should have a good list of reference books on horse breeding at the end of the article, but also plenty of citations in the text...basically think "Undergraduate Thesis." Now, I make the suggestion but admit that having done the work to find and cite sources on two other articles, I'm a bit fried, but would be glad to help if there are others also willing to come on board. I personally think a little more organization and style editing wouldn't be a bad idea, either, but that's the easy part. Finding and citing reference material is kind of tedious, but necessary (web pages from various universities are one good online source, however!) Montanabw 00:23, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split this article?

Seems to me that this article is really covering 2 or 3 topics:

  • Pregnancy & Foaling
  • Breeding methods
  • Breeding & crossing bloodlines for desired characteristics

Should we consider splitting this up a bit? T-bonham 21:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Not yet, let's clean up this one first. Better organization would do wonders, there's stuff that's redundant, wordy, and just needs cleanup. I've done some, but there's a way to go...I think everything still fits under one heading, too many separate articles on too closely related a topic can wind up with new editors coming in and adding what they think is "missing."
Once this article is in good shape, then if we want to take sections wholesale and make them into new articles, it will be easier, too. Montanabw 03:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Medieval horses

Here's the problem paragraph from the article I referred to: <Medieval Europe bred large horses specifically for war, called destriers. These horses were the ancestors of the great heavy horses of today, and their size was preferred not simply because of the weight of the armor, but also because a large horse provided more power for the knight’s lance. Weighing almost twice as much as a normal riding horse, the destrier was a powerful weapon in battle.> 1. not very accurate, 2. not comprehensive 3. draws no conclusions and develops no argument within the discussion as a whole. Having pointed out the problem, I offer no solution!! Perhaps a brief summary and link to Medieval horses. Gwinva 12:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC) Is this true? <When Muslim warriors and European knights collided in warfare, the heavy knights were frequently outmanuvered.> taken from following paragraph.Gwinva 12:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Point taken on destriers, no time to fix now! <grin> The bit on the Muslims is true, how do you think they conquered Spain if not superior military tactics? By the time they got to France, the Europeans had figured out how to stop them, but it took a while! Basically light cavalry can always outmaneuver heavy cavalry, but if you bog down light cavalry so their freedom of movement is restricted, then they are at a serious disadvantage. Note this image:

On that note, look at the riding position of the one guy with a lance near the front of the painting! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Montanabw (talk • contribs) 23:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Umbilicus

I thought changing "iodine" to "antiseptic" would be the cleanest, since there are varying opinions about iodine vs. chlorhexidine. That way, we don't have to get into detail about the differences. --Getwood (talk) 21:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

No prob. Montanabw(talk) 07:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Closer to GA status?

I think that this article is close to Good Article status. I think it mainly needs a few more in-line references, a a few cosmetic tweaks to be ready. Good work, all. --Getwood (talk) 14:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

It is possible. Always a real learning experience to take one up, you learn a lot about the editing process. Go over to User:Ealdgyth's talk page and ask her do a run through, she's the goddess of WikiProject Equine Good Articles. If you put it up, brace for impact because some editors will be pretty tough, but if E blesses it before it goes, she usually catches all the big stuff. I'd be glad to help as needed, though may not have a lot of time. Montanabw(talk) 20:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)