Talk:Horrorcore
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i'm suprised that this page does not mention the geto boys...they have a big hand in "horrocore" especially bushwick bill's solo album...and i'm suprised that all the commentors here have not mentioned the geto boys...makes me wonder who knows what they're talking about 217.151.224.29 (talk) 15:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC) mental possibility
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[edit] Artist Listings
I think Bone Thugs N Harmony should be mentioned on this page. A lot of their lyrics can be considered as Horrorcore.ex from the song east 1999(187 you think that your going to heaven with slugs(bullets) all up in your chest to hell is where you be dwelling).Leegar84 01:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- WP:NOR Wikipedia isn't the place for opinions. If Bone Thugs & Harmony are to be listed, it needs to be verified. Read WP:Verify.--Scandalous 23:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Necro and his goons need a mention on the page because they put out the most evil grimy music in the world today with little humour and Necro is one of the biggest artists in the genre today although he claims to be Death Rap. Also some body asked about links to death metal and black metal i dont really know but i do know Necro has worked with Obituary, Slipknot, Voivod
I have no idea what the last paragraph has to do with anything. CoherentDelirium 12:12, 06 Sept 2006 (PST)
Too many pioneers listed, perhaps there should be a seperate list of artists of this genre. ReverendG 00:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unsorted statements regarding article
The last paragraph is quite hideous.
The final paragraph of this page needs to be edited to conform to a more "encyclopedic" format. YARRRRRR! Entropic 1053 17Feb05 (CT)
Just a note to whoever writes this article. Please include the Template:Hiphop footer by typing {{msg:hiphop}} at the bottom of the edit window. Thanks, Tuf-Kat 23:47, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC)
After reading this article, I still have one question: What is horrorcore? --Dachannien 00:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- From what I gather, horrorcore is rap with an emphasis on very dark/violent lyrics. If so, this is not even mentioned in the article. At the moment, this is just a list of hip-hop acts and record labels. There needs to be some clear definition of what horrorcore actually is. --Neural 23:53, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- I've updated the page to explain the genre a little more. The person who wrote it before me had very little knowledge of the genre. I will be making artist pages for the few artists who have not been added already so you can get a better understanding if you wish. --Eldi 13:10, 21 AUG 2005 (PST)
The entire article is quite hideous - the writing style reeks of an 8th grade research paper, and just the general approach is far too subjective.
I have the feeling that this article is trying to defend Horrorcore in a simple persuasive essay format. It needs to be redone entirely and without bias. The0208 00:59, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
It seems like whoever edited it is trying to promote this Killa C --.Greven. 00:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] I tried
I read this article and was sickened. I tried to edit what I could, but it still sucks. It no longer bashes Horrorcore or the artists on that page, but it still needs work. I hope in the meantime that this helps for those of you looking for information on Horrorcore music. Whoever wrote this article in the first place was very rude and to all that had to view it, I apologize on behalf of the person.
[edit] Removed this
"Acid Rap" is a term that a DJ from Clatskanie, OR, Beleaves it correct. Daniel May is a DJ in Oregon that has a ton of music and knows that sound of Acid Rap. This is what Horrorcore should be called.
looks like a 2 year old wrote it.
[edit] I've made some changes
I have added pretty much everything that is on the page right now, I know there are still a few things to work on, but I did what I could (I'm not really an expert on the subject, but I know a thing or two). I will also add redirects (from murder rap, for example). skribb 17:57, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Juggalo
Deleted the section entitled "Juggalo", because the information almost exactly duplicated the information available on the Juggalo page. There is a "see also" link near the bottom to the Juggalo article, which should be sufficient. Here's hoping it doesn't reappear without someone rewriting it to explain why Juggalo and horrorcore are related. --Dachannien 00:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Big L
Just wondering should Big L be on the list. He did record some songs that can be considered horrorcore but that was not his main style so I am not sure if to include him or not.-- hasafienda 20:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
dude big L is not horrocore at all... ---Burgz33 05:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Devil's Son was Horrorcore
One song doesn't make you horrorcore.... Erryday I'm 13:39, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeah but it was a Horrorcore song, there should be a list of artists & tracks that have been horrorcore, ie DMX, some Bone Thugs etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by B7 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Artists
I think the grocery list of artists should be removed, or at least their significance explained. The0208 03:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Death Rap is not Hororcore, Necro created Death Rap as a term for his own brand of music, Juggalos use to term horrorcore to explain the pathetic style and abundance of face painting, there is a difference.
[edit] Bias: Makeup vs. Originality
"Or they just don't wear face paint because they want their own original style." This seems to imply a bias against makeup, in that it's very use is inherently less unoriginal. Although that may be true for derivative makeup styles, I don't see how not wearing makeup by definition makes a group any more original. --Scandalous 07:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Death Metal/Black Metal Links
The article states that Horrorcore artists often have links with death/black metal artists. Other than the subject matter I'm not aware of any links myself. Can anybody actually name any links?
http://necrohiphop.com/prefix.htm
Necro's "Prefix For Death" album fatures many metal legends & acts, including Away of Voivod, John Tardy of Obituary Dan Liker of Nuclear Assault, #0 of Slipknot, and Jamey Jasta of Hatebreed.
- WP:VERIFY WP:NOR WP:NPOV Please read the policies and guidelines, and revisit the question. We need a reliable source, if the statement is to remain. --Scandalous 01:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rollback
Who's up for a rollback? This article is utterly sub-standard now. skribb 20:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Shawn Devlin Kidnap Case
According to Newsweek magazine an man who lived in an apartment upstairs from where Shawn Devlin was being said "There was often loud banging and blaring music, including "horrorcore" bands like Insane Clown Posse and Twiztid"[1] 69.114.117.103 19:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Page needs to be locked down.
people are adding a musical artists list, with no sources, and half the artists dont even have a page on wikipedia
[edit] Terrible page
I'd re-write the entire page if I could, but I don't know enough about the topic to... hopefully someone with knowledge on this subject can come forward and do a clean-up of this page. At the moment it needs:
- To explain what horrorcore actually is
- A history that actually makes sense
- A list of notable artists
- The random lyrics at the ends to be removed
- Many grammar errors to be fixed
[edit] Entire Article is Crap
Horrorcore was a puerile fad. The only reason this whole article hasn't been deleted is because NOBODY WITH HALF A BRAIN GIVES A SHIT about it.
- WP:DISCUSSION Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for opinions on the topic. --Scandalous 00:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Did you get beaten up by an artist or something?
this discussion page isnt here for your oppinon. take it to a forum because you are just vandalizing on wikipedia --Mpfterd 01:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Artists that are NOT horrorcore
three 6 mafia should be taken off because they were once considered horrorcore and it would be misleading to say that they never were --Mpfterd 01:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Satanic Music" section.
A question about this section: What purpose does it serve, other than to "defend" the genre? It would be one thing to explain the controversy surrounding that issue, citing examples. This section appears to be taking a stance however, and I'm not sure that's appropriate from an encyclopedic, or npov perspective. It also smacks of a bias against Satanism in general.
While on the topic, musicians of any just about any genre can come from any faith, including Satanism. Sure, a satanist isn't often going to be inclined to put out a Christian rock album, but there's nothing that really prevents him/her from doing so, just as long as he/she finds a way to publish/distribute it. --Scandalous 10:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Many people have the misconception that horrorcore music is satanic, however horrorcore is nothing more than a horror movie without the visual aspect. Horrorcore is largely fictional, not fact. Horrorcore is done more for the means of entertainment, and is in no way real, many artists have explained this in their songs after being called "Satanic" by the media.
I am removing that section of text for the reasons I mentioned above. Please read WP:VERIFY, WP:NOR, and WP:RS. --Scandalous 00:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article Submitted for Deletion
The article has been submitted for deletion. Although I did not submit the article for deletion, the points made are valid. The article is not in keeping with Wikipedia's policies, notably: Verifiability, No Original Research, and Neutral Point of View. A lot of work needs to be done on this article if it is to remain. So, if anyone can provide any reliable sources, it would be a good start. --Scandalous 01:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
