Talk:Hopscotch (Julio Cortázar novel)

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Assessment comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · refresh) I looked of this article and there are many errors in it. While the writer of the article appears to be greatly informed on the subject, and there is a semblance of an analysis of Cortazar's novel, the information is not presented in a concise and clear manner and only seems to be trying to emulate or imitate the functions of the novel. I think that the original writer of this article can rewrite in a more sophisticated manner instead of trying to do the same type of techniques that may or may not be found in the novel (I have not read it). This is my recommendation and I also suggest for someone to flag this article for clarity--I don't know how to do that yet.

Contents 1 NPOV 2 Complete Infobox Incorporation 3 Great Article 4 Full of incorrect details 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Low res hopscotch.jpg 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Low res hopscotch.jpg 7 Borges' "Garden"? 8 Christian article?

[edit] NPOV

According to the first paragraph, "Hopscotch by Julio Cortázar (translated to English by Gregory Rabassa) is by far, the most significant contribution to humanity by a single artist." That, as well as the rest of the paragraph, seems pretty POV to me! Bunnyhugger 17:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Complete Infobox Incorporation

Hopscotch
thumb 1st edition cover design (Pantheon: 2/12/87)
Author	Julio Cortázar
Original title	Rayuela
Translator	Gregory Rabassa
Country	United States
Language	English
Genre(s)	Postmodern literature
Publisher	Pantheon
Publication date	1963 (Spanish)
Published in English	1966
Media type	Print (paperback)
Pages	576 (Pantheon)
ISBN	ISBN 0-394-75284-8 (Pantheon)
Preceded by	Historias de cronopios y de famas
Followed by	Todos los fuegos el fuego

I added the new factual infobox to Julio Cortázar's Hopscotch Article. This is the new version. (Webb Traverse 09:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Great Article

It was about time, Hopscotch is one of the true great books of postmodern literature. (Evendeeper 11:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Full of incorrect details

The article is full of incorrect information. It seems whoever wrote the synopsis of the "part II" of the novel did not read the book or wasn't paying much attention to it. That whole section should be rewritten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.74.7.85 (talk) 02:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Low res hopscotch.jpg

Image:Low res hopscotch.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Low res hopscotch.jpg

Image:Low res hopscotch.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 21:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

There are too many errors. The author of this article does not appear to have read the novel, os has misinterpreted and confused many of the plot points. For example, Oliveira, Traveler and Talita all started working at the mental institution at the same time. Morelli was an acquaintance of Oliveira's from Paris, who had been hospitalized after suffering a broken leg in a car accident. There is no argument between Oliveira and Traveler in the hospital's yard, and Oliveira does not jump out of the window; their verbal confrontation had taken place earlier, in Oliveira's room, and ended when Traveler joined Talita and the hospital staff downstairs in the yard, where he continued the conversation with Oliveira, who was perched on the open window.

I caught these errors after only a superficial review of the article. It is a good and admirable task to review this amazing work of literature. It is also a daunting task, considering the structural complexity of the novel. Greater attention to detail and more careful reading of this novel are necessary. I might read it again and contribute to the article later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.248.195 (talk) 00:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Borges' "Garden"?

I read in a textbook that this book was based upon Borges' story, "Garden of the Forking Paths," but I don't see that mentioned in the article. Does anyone have other sources that could verify or refute this claim? It seems like it should be included if it's true.... Aristophanes68 (talk) 00:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Christian article?

Why is this page categorized under "Christianity articles with comments"? Aristophanes68 (talk) 00:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)